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It is just about 6 months since we moved from Thailand to Nth Luzon. I was asked recently by another expat how I was settling in.
On reflection, it has been a bit of a tough journey. I am sure I will eventually settle down more, it is always difficult when you go to a new environment.
I had veen to Phils about 6 or 7 times before the permanent move, so had a fair idea of what it was like here, or so I thought.
I am struggling with the level of poverty, far worse than I realised. There is a constant stream to our door of locals with their hands out. It is much the same philosophy here, if you are expat, then you must be rich - alas, I fail in that criteria, merely an old bas...rd trying to have a decent retirement which I could not have in my home country.
At this time of the year, the traffic has increased to our door.
The sheer numbers of people and the traffic congestion takes some getting used to. I used to ride a bike in Thailand but quickly realised that is a free ticket to the hospital or worse, so we have a car to get around, only marginally safer! Driving here is a stressful task and I do no more than is necessary.
Trying to deal with 'tradesmen' (an over estimation) is a nightmare, jobs rarely done correctly - but thankfully, just about finished in that department.
Consumer laws or lack of them has been another difficulty, they do not seem to like replacing something if it is faulty?
Not wishing to sound like a whinger here, but just trying to give an insight into problems that I have encountered. Barking dogs are an issue I have discussed in another post, much the same in Thailand, so going nowhere with that one.
i have met a few nice locals but even one of them 'put the bite on me' and I had only known him a few weeks!!
I wonder of other members found similar problems when they first arrived, if so, have they adjusted their expectation levels or should I just grin and bear it?

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It is just about 6 months since we moved from Thailand to Nth Luzon. I was asked recently by another expat how I was settling in.
On reflection, it has been a bit of a tough journey. I am sure I will eventually settle down more, it is always difficult when you go to a new environment.
I had veen to Phils about 6 or 7 times before the permanent move, so had a fair idea of what it was like here, or so I thought.
I am struggling with the level of poverty, far worse than I realised. There is a constant stream to our door of locals with their hands out. It is much the same philosophy here, if you are expat, then you must be rich - alas, I fail in that criteria, merely an old bas...rd trying to have a decent retirement which I could not have in my home country.
At this time of the year, the traffic has increased to our door.
The sheer numbers of people and the traffic congestion takes some getting used to. I used to ride a bike in Thailand but quickly realised that is a free ticket to the hospital or worse, so we have a car to get around, only marginally safer! Driving here is a stressful task and I do no more than is necessary.
Trying to deal with 'tradesmen' (an over estimation) is a nightmare, jobs rarely done correctly - but thankfully, just about finished in that department.
Consumer laws or lack of them has been another difficulty, they do not seem to like replacing something if it is faulty?
Not wishing to sound like a whinger here, but just trying to give an insight into problems that I have encountered. Barking dogs are an issue I have discussed in another post, much the same in Thailand, so going nowhere with that one.
i have met a few nice locals but even one of them 'put the bite on me' and I had only known him a few weeks!!
I wonder of other members found similar problems when they first arrived, if so, have they adjusted their expectation levels or should I just grin and bear it?
Yes Ron I/we hear your cries, welcome. It's more fun in the Philippines apparently but little else, you make me shudder with what my life will bring when we finally move...... No more dampers, do you have any positives? If so relate, if not don't answer.
My experiences reflect all that you mention but these could be in any country, god knows I see many problems in Oz, especially driving skills or lack of, endure we do and my thoughts/philosophy is very simple, while in Rome etc. Driving in PH. is no different to driving in any country and is matched by local standards and takes little time to adjust to. Family is one of my/our reason for moving, an assured lifestyle is another some 8 or 9 years before I could ever hope to retire in Oz. I ain't gonna work to 67 and get jack shite, no pension for me. Moving forward life in any country is what you make it, I had visions of retiring in Italy 8 years ago until I met my better half, Filipino and the rest is history. My choice and will live with the consequences and no one to blame bar myself. Enjoy? Only time will tell and I hope I am around to relate good and bad no different to Mogo.

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Hehe .. didnít they say itís more fun in Philippines ??

I lived there about 3-4 years. Then I realized that retirement ls meant to enjoy life and not to be miserable! Thatís when I left it in a hurry and for good!

There is abo****ely nothing that works as you or I expect it to.

People breed like rabbits do.. and they smile
They lie left and right ... while they smile
They steal from each other ... and they smile
A foreigner (Kano) thinks that he will integrate but never will. He is a fair game!

Itís cheap but for reasons!!!

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[QUOTE=pronse;13778466]Hehe .. didnít they say itís more fun in Philippines ??

I lived there about 3-4 years. Then I realized that retirement ls meant to enjoy life and not to be miserable! Thatís when I left it in a hurry and for good!

There is abo****ely nothing that works as you or I expect it to.

People breed like rabbits do.. and they smile
They lie left and right ... while they smile
They steal from each other ... and they smile
A foreigner (Kano) thinks that he will integrate but never will. He is a fair game!

Itís cheap but for reasons!!![/QUOT

Your negativity always astounds me pronse, why waste your time with trivialities, obviously PH was not your destination and I will follow up with a simple observation that where ever you are now also appears to be a downer. OMO,slap me, fine me or ban me, I am only offering my opinion which apparently is worth little because I rock the boat. Here we will see, other sites yes. My opinion and little else on offer.

Cheers, Steve.
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I always thought that every country page on the site should have a no-holds-barred rant page to let off steam from stress adjusting to a new country. Wish I had the ability to do so.

The Philippines can be a rough country to get use to. Many don't and end up leaving and that's a good thing. I'll bet there are other countries though that would make this look like Beverly Hills.

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I always thought that every country page on the site should have a no-holds-barred rant page to let off steam from stress adjusting to a new country. Wish I had the ability to do so.

The Philippines can be a rough country to get use to. Many don't and end up leaving and that's a good thing. I'll bet there are other countries though that would make this look like Beverly Hills.
The world is your oyster,,,,,, so I was led to believe and then some. My choice to be with my better half in PH. than living the lie in OZ. Expensive and little less bureaucracy than most countries overall. I see and live with the limitations in Oz they seem to me to far out weight a simple life in PH. and the mundane rap that others toil with. Our choice. Ohers in between, do your home work here, other less congenial sites and yes our best friend google. Always remember that these sites only remain because of the few aimed at helping individuals such as myself and naught other.

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I first visited Philippines in 2002 when i came here to marry my now wife.
Was met at the Airport by several members of the family, on our way home we stopped at a Resturant.
My wife had already told me about the armed Guards everywhere, but this car park guard had a shotgun !
That was the first cuture shock !
I knew the wifes home was ina family compound which consisted of the main family home where the mother lived
Then the sister had her own home, next to the wifes all hollow block constructed.
The next morning the brother took us to the local shops and as drove from the house i saw poverty like i coulnt imagine, homes made from wooden sheets and plastic, children playing with plastic bottles, woman washing clothes using a hand pump next to a drain.
And yes its the same today the area has hardly changed !
As for me being a rich whitey well that problem is solved as the little woman deals with the locals !
Yes we do give money to a few of the old ones but the wifes li it is a max of 500 php as dhe says it will never be repaid.
This time of year especially , we have a CCTV camera thats pointing at the front gate so we can see who is
Ringing the doorbell it records along with 2 other cameras 24/7 ,stops us going down to the gate when the kids
Ring the bell and run off !
Coming from the UK with its rules and regulations and the PC correct brigade the Philippines for me is paradise.
Yes it has rules for us expats which i respect ,but things like the annual reporting well im happy with that.
And i like the way when we go to Any SM or the other Stores , its always welcome to SM sir.
And unlike the UK if you want to buy a TV or other electrical appliance they will unpack it for you snd even show it working!
I love the Philippines.
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Mogo, I have very few friends but the Philippine friends I do have will visit and talk with me and it won't cost me anything and sometimes we share information about my various hobbies that we have in common but the others I've had to just keep it to hello because all they want to do is is get drunk every single day and food it's never enough so it's been one year and I've given up the alcohol it was the best decision I've ever made because if not I only waste my time and money on drunks and also I feel for health reasons.

It's a little tougher during the holiday season because the kids will hound you for money but hey I'm not on vacation and I dont' act like I'm a tourist and neighbors and my in-laws are relentless they me to splurge on them but they tend to forget that I'm retired and not working anymore so that won't happen, I got some real long stares today while walking with my 18 month grand daughter and it didn't' bug me anymore because she's more important to me than anything they can throw at me with their expressions and also my immediate family just glare at me, these jealous and contemptuous moochers they are never satisfied.
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Hehe .. didnít they say itís more fun in Philippines ??

I lived there about 3-4 years. Then I realized that retirement ls meant to enjoy life and not to be miserable! Thatís when I left it in a hurry and for good!

There is abo****ely nothing that works as you or I expect it to.

People breed like rabbits do.. and they smile
They lie left and right ... while they smile
They steal from each other ... and they smile
A foreigner (Kano) thinks that he will integrate but never will. He is a fair game!

Itís cheap but for reasons!!!
Pronse I am trying to work out if you are living in Fils or not. From your post it would seem not, as you say that you left in a hurry for good, yet from your user info you're originally from US and an expat in Philippines. If you're not an expat in Philippines, may I ask where you are living now and how it compares with Philippines.
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Well I struggle with it too, but my woman is here so what ya gonna do? I don't like the pollution, trash and congestion, a lot of which I attribute to the high rate of population growth from influence of the church, along with a massive increase in motor vehicles in just the past few years. We live in the city so the kid can be in good school, and that's the price you pay. I find Filipinos to be happier and more friendly, with a tendency to live much more in the moment than in their heads as we westerners tend to do, with our worries and complaints. Material things aren't as important as family. The natural places are stunningly beautiful and undeveloped .. for now. Living in the Philippines requires humility and acceptance of things as they are, not what we want them to be. There is certainly some benefit in that, but yes it does wear on you.

That said, I spend a fair amount of time in the States, managing my projects, so I get a break from it. I use that time to enjoy the things I either don't feel safe doing in the Philippines or find difficult with the hot, humid climate. Things like camping, distance cycling, motorcycling, etc. The women certainly aren't much to look at though, compared to the Filipina beauties, and they sure have an attitude. In fact there is so much attitude in general over "first world problems", lol. But I would be remiss if I didn't acknowledge that things do in fact function better and more efficiently in the States, despite all the whiners there who don't appreciate what they have.


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