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I am a kiwi living in Aussie and miss NZ dearly. Sure, I get paid more here in Australia but I miss the beautiful scenery, the laid back lifestyle and emphasis on education in NZ (B.O.P in particular). I am a teacher and can definitely advocate the hard work teachers put in NZ, as opposed to QLD in AUstralia.

Yes, crime is a little high for my liking in NZ, but it is here in Aus too. Avoid the gangs, domestic abuse situations and getting wasted on booze and you will be fine!
EXACTLY!!!!! These issues exist the world over, but are the instances as high as in the UK??? HELL NO!!!!!!!!!! And don't even get me started on the people who use percentages as stats...how can it even be compared?!?!? Seriously, a % made up out of 76million people (UK) next to a % made up from 4 million (NZ)??? No comparison.

As for education, I too am a teacher (in BOP!!) and can attest to the significant level of work that teachers put in here...not for a paycheck, but because they LOVE what they do. Education is run by schools, BOT's and teachers...NOT a central government where politicians tell you what and how you must teach children. I have worked in education around the world, and this is the HAPPIEST I have ever been in a job. I love my job...because I am allowed to teach and focus on learning, NOT content as in the UK.

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Yeah, lower wage in NZ, but a generally more people,family-focused place to be

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EXACTLY!!!!! These issues exist the world over, but are the instances as high as in the UK??? HELL NO!!!!!!!!!! And don't even get me started on the people who use percentages as stats...how can it even be compared?!?!? Seriously, a % made up out of 76million people (UK) next to a % made up from 4 million (NZ)??? No comparison.

As for education, I too am a teacher (in BOP!!) and can attest to the significant level of work that teachers put in here...not for a paycheck, but because they LOVE what they do. Education is run by schools, BOT's and teachers...NOT a central government where politicians tell you what and how you must teach children. I have worked in education around the world, and this is the HAPPIEST I have ever been in a job. I love my job...because I am allowed to teach and focus on learning, NOT content as in the UK.

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Yeah, lower wage in NZ, but a generally more people,family-focused place to be
Could not have put it better myself! Teachers here (QLD) moan about their pay, work 9-3 and go home and wont do any professional development - this could just be the schools I have taught at. I have also lived in London... NZ definitely for great state education of kids I would say!

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Ask everybody about his/her home country... there is always something they don't like... And if they are bold enough to make the move to another country or even other countries they will always compare what they gain with what they gave up. It's human nature.
Some things I don't like in France. Some I liked in NZ or USA or Canada or any other country I visited/stayed in/worked in. Even if you try to fit in, you will always think of the past... and how you dreamt of a future that cannot be filled by the reality. It's because that's it: a dream. A dream of escaping from what you live actually, a dream of a better life for you and your kids.
As I wrote before, nobody can tell you how you will like or not a country. And as countries are not where you live, because you live in a city, a neighborhood, and every one is different from the other in terms of climate, facilities, schools, crime rate, asking generally if "NZ is bad" "Canada is good" "Could I fit in France" has no meaning whatsoever. The answers either. Whatever the reasons you want to leave a country for another, don't investigate on the net... go there. You are not living in a computer!
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Ask everybody about his/her home country... there is always something they don't like... And if they are bold enough to make the move to another country or even other countries they will always compare what they gain with what they gave up. It's human nature.
Some things I don't like in France. Some I liked in NZ or USA or Canada or any other country I visited/stayed in/worked in. Even if you try to fit in, you will always think of the past... and how you dreamt of a future that cannot be filled by the reality. It's because that's it: a dream. A dream of escaping from what you live actually, a dream of a better life for you and your kids.
As I wrote before, nobody can tell you how you will like or not a country. And as countries are not where you live, because you live in a city, a neighborhood, and every one is different from the other in terms of climate, facilities, schools, crime rate, asking generally if "NZ is bad" "Canada is good" "Could I fit in France" has no meaning whatsoever. The answers either. Whatever the reasons you want to leave a country for another, don't investigate on the net... go there. You are not living in a computer!

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Ah Lyon -wonderful restaurants, must try & revisit there again before I head back to NZ

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My family is thinking of immigrating to NZ in the near future and have already submitted an Expression of Interest. Ironically, after submitting my EOI, I have read a lot of good and bad things about living in NZ and it seems that I read more bad than good things about NZ, esp as regards cost of living, housing, crime rate and wages/salaries. Now I'm having second thoughts about pushing through with my EOI. Is it really that bad to live in NZ? I need to be enlightened. Thanks, guys.
Hey, you are very wise to do loads of research prior to moving.
I left Wales and moved to the US to be with my american wife, we decided after a trip to NZ to move and we have been here for 2yrs now. Yes there are good and bad,
the good,
beauty-everywhere,
beaches quiet,
people friendly,

not so good,
cost of living in proportionally expensive
2 companies ultimately own all stores-result-fixed prices
tradesmen hearing an accent add a %% to the bill [we have tested this as we have a kiwi who works for us in our office, so the 3 of us have called for quotes, American accent got most expensive, my accent second, Kiwi cheapest.
vertually all our new goods bought have had to be returned/changed or mended within a short space of time, Murrano [Nissan] cooker, fridge, washing machine, iron [on number 3 now] kettle [number 2] our solid wood furniture,,, sideboard has spilt twice, chair seats split, our very [stuipidly so] expensive bed and furniture are all not good, doors no longer fit that have been replaced in the house [which is 5yrs old] and I could go on.

I wonder if second class goods are sent here, alot is made in a country known for poor quality.
The attitude from companies tend to be [not all the time but mostly] "well u need to get blah blah done and if I dont do it,, u dont have a choice.

There is a clear lack of competition, NZ would be greatly enhanced by IKEA, Lidl or Aldi,,,, ok they may not be good either but people would see how much the Great Kiwi Rip off [as we call it] is taking effect.
Ok people can say,,,, prices are due to imported goods,,, well if that was the case home made goods, meat, dairy etc would be far cheaper. My parents in Wales can buy New Zealand lamb and Anchor butter far cheaper than I can here.

I miss history,, though I didnt anticipate this when looking to move here-thats kinda odd really.

Generally houses are not built with heating or A/C though new houses may be,, the attitude seems to be put a jumper on if cold, and open a window when hot. Hummidity is also an issue and we had a system placed in the house to allegedly help remove this .

Also if you are looking to come,,, may I suggest you research where the biting flies are/are not,,,, we did check and asked the real estate agent and we were told no, not where we were looking to buy a house, we bought the house and I am basically bitten everyday-regardless of repellent.

I am aware this may make scary reading, and I am sure there are many many people who have had a wonderful experience, however this has been ours.
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Hey, you are very wise to do loads of research prior to moving.
I left Wales and moved to the US to be with my american wife, we decided after a trip to NZ to move and we have been here for 2yrs now. Yes there are good and bad,
the good,
beauty-everywhere,
beaches quiet,
people friendly,

not so good,
cost of living in proportionally expensive
2 companies ultimately own all stores-result-fixed prices
tradesmen hearing an accent add a %% to the bill [we have tested this as we have a kiwi who works for us in our office, so the 3 of us have called for quotes, American accent got most expensive, my accent second, Kiwi cheapest.
vertually all our new goods bought have had to be returned/changed or mended within a short space of time, Murrano [Nissan] cooker, fridge, washing machine, iron [on number 3 now] kettle [number 2] our solid wood furniture,,, sideboard has spilt twice, chair seats split, our very [stuipidly so] expensive bed and furniture are all not good, doors no longer fit that have been replaced in the house [which is 5yrs old] and I could go on.

I wonder if second class goods are sent here, alot is made in a country known for poor quality.
The attitude from companies tend to be [not all the time but mostly] "well u need to get blah blah done and if I dont do it,, u dont have a choice.

There is a clear lack of competition, NZ would be greatly enhanced by IKEA, Lidl or Aldi,,,, ok they may not be good either but people would see how much the Great Kiwi Rip off [as we call it] is taking effect.
Ok people can say,,,, prices are due to imported goods,,, well if that was the case home made goods, meat, dairy etc would be far cheaper. My parents in Wales can buy New Zealand lamb and Anchor butter far cheaper than I can here.

I miss history,, though I didnt anticipate this when looking to move here-thats kinda odd really.

Generally houses are not built with heating or A/C though new houses may be,, the attitude seems to be put a jumper on if cold, and open a window when hot. Hummidity is also an issue and we had a system placed in the house to allegedly help remove this .

Also if you are looking to come,,, may I suggest you research where the biting flies are/are not,,,, we did check and asked the real estate agent and we were told no, not where we were looking to buy a house, we bought the house and I am basically bitten everyday-regardless of repellent.

I am aware this may make scary reading, and I am sure there are many many people who have had a wonderful experience, however this has been ours.
This is a difficult one to reply to, you have had a bad time. We did install Heat pumps / ac and they make life much more comfortable, must admit not had many problems with cars / equipment.

The only problem we get with biting, is sitting out in the evening from the mozzies.

Looks like you have had everyone else's share of bad luck.

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its funny how replies to posts are responded to without reading the post they are replying too.

I stated NZ is beautiful and sure your vid clips indicate this, but the vid clips do not cover the houses, ours cost $1 million and its like a cardboard box-nothing solid about it at all, we were lucky enough to have purchased it outright so dont have a mortgage.

As for the moderator who indicated that people who moan may be less inteligent, respectfully I remind you that the origin of this topic was to ask for peoples input and not for other members to belittle others. I clearly stated the opinion given was our experience-which was asked for.

Please do not preach about occulational/lifestyle balance I am more than aware of this, for you or anyone else to indicate otherwise shows such bad manners. A teacher you may be, but I hope you teach in a more objective manner.
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its funny how replies to posts are responded to without reading the post they are replying too.

I stated NZ is beautiful and sure your vid clips indicate this, but the vid clips do not cover the houses, ours cost $1 million and its like a cardboard box-nothing solid about it at all, we were lucky enough to have purchased it outright so dont have a mortgage.

As for the moderator who indicated that people who moan may be less inteligent, respectfully I remind you that the origin of this topic was to ask for peoples input and not for other members to belittle others. I clearly stated the opinion given was our experience-which was asked for.

Please do not preach about occulational/lifestyle balance I am more than aware of this, for you or anyone else to indicate otherwise shows such bad manners. A teacher you may be, but I hope you teach in a more objective manner.
Sorry not sure who this post is for, me or someone else, I not a moderator or a teacher and I certainly was not trying to preach, but if I have given offence I apologise

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Hey, you are very wise to do loads of research prior to moving.
I left Wales and moved to the US to be with my american wife, we decided after a trip to NZ to move and we have been here for 2yrs now. Yes there are good and bad,
the good,
beauty-everywhere,
beaches quiet,
people friendly,

not so good,
cost of living in proportionally expensive
2 companies ultimately own all stores-result-fixed prices
tradesmen hearing an accent add a %% to the bill [we have tested this as we have a kiwi who works for us in our office, so the 3 of us have called for quotes, American accent got most expensive, my accent second, Kiwi cheapest.
vertually all our new goods bought have had to be returned/changed or mended within a short space of time, Murrano [Nissan] cooker, fridge, washing machine, iron [on number 3 now] kettle [number 2] our solid wood furniture,,, sideboard has spilt twice, chair seats split, our very [stuipidly so] expensive bed and furniture are all not good, doors no longer fit that have been replaced in the house [which is 5yrs old] and I could go on.

I wonder if second class goods are sent here, alot is made in a country known for poor quality.
The attitude from companies tend to be [not all the time but mostly] "well u need to get blah blah done and if I dont do it,, u dont have a choice.

There is a clear lack of competition, NZ would be greatly enhanced by IKEA, Lidl or Aldi,,,, ok they may not be good either but people would see how much the Great Kiwi Rip off [as we call it] is taking effect.
Ok people can say,,,, prices are due to imported goods,,, well if that was the case home made goods, meat, dairy etc would be far cheaper. My parents in Wales can buy New Zealand lamb and Anchor butter far cheaper than I can here.

I miss history,, though I didnt anticipate this when looking to move here-thats kinda odd really.

Generally houses are not built with heating or A/C though new houses may be,, the attitude seems to be put a jumper on if cold, and open a window when hot. Hummidity is also an issue and we had a system placed in the house to allegedly help remove this .

Also if you are looking to come,,, may I suggest you research where the biting flies are/are not,,,, we did check and asked the real estate agent and we were told no, not where we were looking to buy a house, we bought the house and I am basically bitten everyday-regardless of repellent.

I am aware this may make scary reading, and I am sure there are many many people who have had a wonderful experience, however this has been ours.
I take it by referring to 2 companies you are referring to the 2 chains that operate the various Food Supermarkets (Stores)

As for being overcharged for your accent, never experienced that in my 8 years of employing tradesmen getting quote & I certainly Do Not Have a Kiwi Accent.

Cannot believe you have had so much bad luck with appliances especially as most goods are manufactured in a number of different countries.

When I arrived in NZ I bought a complete house full of furniture & appliances & in 8 years the only thing I ever took back was a Juicer which broke after 10 months use every day. On production of my receipt (which is proof of guarantee/warranty validity) the assistant cheerfully replaced it with a brand new replacement.

I cannot believe overseas companies single NZ out to send their second class goods, you cannot seriously believe that.

If you want Ikea you have a choice I imported a complete kitchen with accessories from Australia even taking into account the cost of my return air ticket & shipping it was much cheaper than any kitchen I had priced locally. So you have a choice & incidentally most of the components of the kitchen were manufactured in countries other than Australia yet that kitchen has stood up to 8 years of my use & 2 years from 2 lots of tenants who might not have been as careful as I would be.

Yes & you can buy NZ lamb & butter etc cheaper out of NZ & it was the same 59 years ago when I used to buy NZ goods in UK. The reason being they are subsidised. Often many countries also export their best fruit etc. All about exports which every country needs for it's balance of payments.
As for insect bites, have fly screens fitted.

My house has central heating & is insulated & being 80 years old well built with ventilation & does not suffer from humidity problems. Modern houses are so well sealed they sweat.

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