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I might sound crazy for asking, but I hope there is someone on here that could help me with this subject... I understand that the cost of food is significantly higher than the price in America (for a good reason, too). I have not been to NZ myself, but my husband has and had remarked on how amazing the food was. We are on a pretty whole food diet here (whole food meaning organic--no chemical sprays, hormones, etc.) due to just helping our overall health. I tried to do some research on GMOs (genetically modified organisms) being banned or allowed in NZ and I found very little information. In America, there is no law suggesting that a company should tell the consumer that there are chemicals in their food. So my question: can anyone tell me what the quality of food is like in NZ? If I go into a Pak'N'Save, could I find organically grown produce and meat? Would the non-organic food be just as healthy?

I also have taken an interest in gardening, and I have heard of Kiwi's doing this as a "DIY norm", so I am assuming the climate is very good to grow your own vegetables?

Thanks! Sorry for the random question, I have been just so curious.

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We will soon be moving to NZ from the States, and this had been one of my questions as well. We too are a family that eats a mostly whole foods/organic diet, and as I am studying to become a nutritionist, this topic was fairly important to me.

We have not lived in NZ yet, but did some thorough investigating on our first visit there...
Here's what I found:

Food purchased at supermarkets is, in general, more expensive than food purchased from a supermarket here in the States. I say "in general" because that only seems to apply if you are comparing NZ supermarkets with grocery stores like Smiths, Walmart, Fresh and Easy, etc... If you compare prices to those found in health foods stores here in the States like Whole Foods, Sprouts, etc... the cost is much more similar. Meat at New World in NZ, for example, was priced just slightly higher than Whole Foods Market here. But the produce in NZ, was priced much LESS per pound (or kilogram) than what you'd expect to pay at Whole Foods.

Also, I noticed many independently owned produce markets, butcher shops, and farmers markets, etc... all of which seemed to offer food at lower prices than the supermarkets.

As far as the quality of food... I spoke with numerous people on this topic while we visited NZ, and investigated many an ingredient label. Food is not quite the same in NZ as it is here in the States...and in a good way.

I recall speaking with a particular person about how lovely it was to see so many cows roaming openly, grazing on green grass... to which I was asked, "Well how else would you do it?" Lol. THAT response was definitely an encouraging one. I went on to explain the feed lot system in the US, and how cows and other animals could be more accurately described as manufactured than raised here.

Nearly every region we visited (North Island) was checkered with farms, orchards, etc. And Many of the homes had personal gardens. And certainly the average temperatures in most parts of the North Island should allow for nearly year-round gardening.

There are of course, still processed foods, fast food, and pesticides, etc. But these are not nearly as common in NZ as they are in the US. For example, in US cities, a macdonalds can be found on virtually every corner. In Auckland, Mcdonalds could only be found every other corner, or so. (I'm joking. There aren't THAT many Mcdonalds in either country. Lol. Oh, and in NZ, Mcdonalds has LAMBburgers on the menu. ) But hopefully you get the point. Unfortunately American food culture has spread, like the plague that it is, to NZ too. But good, REAL, whole foods were much more commonplace in NZ than in the States. IMO.

So basically, it seemed that for those of use coming from the States who have purchased the cheapest "food" possible, at the cheapest markets...the cost of food in NZ will seem outrageous. But if you're used to paying extra here in the States for organic whole foods and health foods, then the cost won't seem all that different in many cases.
Andit make take a bit more time and effort to go to farmers markets and independently owned grocers, etc...but you'll save money that way as well.

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We will soon be moving to NZ from the States, and this had been one of my questions as well. We too are a family that eats a mostly whole foods/organic diet, and as I am studying to become a nutritionist, this topic was fairly important to me.

We have not lived in NZ yet, but did some thorough investigating on our first visit there...
Here's what I found:

Food purchased at supermarkets is, in general, more expensive than food purchased from a supermarket here in the States. I say "in general" because that only seems to apply if you are comparing NZ supermarkets with grocery stores like Smiths, Walmart, Fresh and Easy, etc... If you compare prices to those found in health foods stores here in the States like Whole Foods, Sprouts, etc... the cost is much more similar. Meat at New World in NZ, for example, was priced just slightly higher than Whole Foods Market here. But the produce in NZ, was priced much LESS per pound (or kilogram) than what you'd expect to pay at Whole Foods.

Also, I noticed many independently owned produce markets, butcher shops, and farmers markets, etc... all of which seemed to offer food at lower prices than the supermarkets.

As far as the quality of food... I spoke with numerous people on this topic while we visited NZ, and investigated many an ingredient label. Food is not quite the same in NZ as it is here in the States...and in a good way.

I recall speaking with a particular person about how lovely it was to see so many cows roaming openly, grazing on green grass... to which I was asked, "Well how else would you do it?" Lol. THAT response was definitely an encouraging one. I went on to explain the feed lot system in the US, and how cows and other animals could be more accurately described as manufactured than raised here.

Nearly every region we visited (North Island) was checkered with farms, orchards, etc. And Many of the homes had personal gardens. And certainly the average temperatures in most parts of the North Island should allow for nearly year-round gardening.

There are of course, still processed foods, fast food, and pesticides, etc. But these are not nearly as common in NZ as they are in the US. For example, in US cities, a macdonalds can be found on virtually every corner. In Auckland, Mcdonalds could only be found every other corner, or so. (I'm joking. There aren't THAT many Mcdonalds in either country. Lol. Oh, and in NZ, Mcdonalds has LAMBburgers on the menu. ) But hopefully you get the point. Unfortunately American food culture has spread, like the plague that it is, to NZ too. But good, REAL, whole foods were much more commonplace in NZ than in the States. IMO.

So basically, it seemed that for those of use coming from the States who have purchased the cheapest "food" possible, at the cheapest markets...the cost of food in NZ will seem outrageous. But if you're used to paying extra here in the States for organic whole foods and health foods, then the cost won't seem all that different in many cases.
Andit make take a bit more time and effort to go to farmers markets and independently owned grocers, etc...but you'll save money that way as well.
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NZ has mandatory labelling of NEARLY all GE foods and a labelling threshold of .9-1% GE content. They do not ban GMOs outright.

As a whole NZ and AU have very high labelling laws. So for those with gluten or dairy intolerances that's a great thing.

I spend 1700 on average per month on food here in America. That's 100% organic and wild caught seafood.
To think that NZ is going to have healthier foods at the same price as American WF is laughable.
BioGro which I would class as similar to WF has prices that the normal Joe cannot afford. & by cannot afford I mean to shop 100% organic, open range, etc. Same as our WF aka Whole Pay check.
You need to be gardening & earn over 6 figures to purchase all these wants IMO.
Keep in mind the stores are smaller and carry WAY less variety than us spoilt Americans. You won't easily find chocolate almond milk or unsweetened coconut milk at your small town grocer. Not to mention things like Hispanic foods- such as tortillas, etc.
My only advice is garden garden garden- but keep in mind your soil may be full of chemicals too.....

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NZ has mandatory labelling of NEARLY all GE foods and a labelling threshold of .9-1% GE content. They do not ban GMOs outright.

As a whole NZ and AU have very high labelling laws. So for those with gluten or dairy intolerances that's a great thing.

I spend 1700 on average per month on food here in America. That's 100% organic and wild caught seafood.
To think that NZ is going to have healthier foods at the same price as American WF is laughable.
BioGro which I would class as similar to WF has prices that the normal Joe cannot afford. & by cannot afford I mean to shop 100% organic, open range, etc. Same as our WF aka Whole Pay check.
You need to be gardening & earn over 6 figures to purchase all these wants IMO.
Keep in mind the stores are smaller and carry WAY less variety than us spoilt Americans. You won't easily find chocolate almond milk or unsweetened coconut milk at your small town grocer. Not to mention things like Hispanic foods- such as tortillas, etc.
My only advice is garden garden garden- but keep in mind your soil may be full of chemicals too.....
No one has suggested that NZ has healthier foods at the same price.

But it's not laughable to suggest that, for a family used to paying "Whole Foods prices" in the States, your grocery bill will not be so outrageously high in comparison as some claim. If you move to NZ and expect to continue with one-stop grocery shopping, and buying pre-made foods, etc... then yeah... expect to pay a great deal more than you would in the States. BUT, as I said, by putting a bit more effort and thought into meal planning and grocery purchases, one can still enjoy a healthy diet on a budget in NZ.
Again...gardening, farmers markets, independent grocers, and even purchasing from/exchanging with local gardeners and farmers in your area are all ways to save on whole foods.
Our family drinks a lot of almond milk. So our goal is to eventually include a few almond trees in our yard if/when we ever by a house. almonds+water+a high powered blender=almond milk. In the meantime, or if we cannot get some almond trees, we'll look for places to purchase almonds in bulk for cheaper, etc.
you want hispanic tortillas? make them. Its easy and they taste MUCH better than store bought ones.

You're right that we are spoiled when it comes to variety, convenience, and availability of foods here in the States. But we can't very well complain that food in NZ isn't like it is in the US because it's not the US. so I guess the question for expats is, "Do you want to live in NZ, or do you want to live in the US?"

We know when we move there won't be as much eating out, or pre-packaged/ready-to-eat foods, etc... but with a little more time spent planning and preparing meals, we'll still be able to eat healthy and well.
That's the thing though... we can either continue to shop and eat like Americans, and pay for it...or we can change the way we shop and eat, and maintain a comparable grocery bill and a healthy diet.



And yes, I would absolutely argue that NZ has healthier food in general that the US when it comes to meats and produce. I don't think I'll find it necessary to pay extra for organic meats in NZ, because conventional meat in NZ is not remotely the same thing as conventional meat in the States. Same goes with many dairy products and produce.
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Vmorris22, TML is right... you'll pay much more for groceries in NZ than you do in the States if you do a straight comparison. That is, if you are used to purchasing all of your groceries at one market and eating more expensive meals, etc, and you plan on buying and eating in the same way in NZ, then you'll be paying a lot more for food.

But if you are willing to make some changes like going to multiple places to get the best deals on foods, buying locally and in bulk, growing some of your own food, eating out less, and spending more time preparing meals from scratch, etc... you should be able to save quite a bit on your grocery bill.

And keep in mind that TML is right on another point: lack of variety, in comparison to the US. Not as many specialty foods, and choices of every different flavor and every different brand, as we are used to here.

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No one has suggested that NZ has healthier foods at the same price.

But it's not laughable to suggest that, for a family used to paying "Whole Foods prices" in the States, your grocery bill will not be so outrageously high in comparison as some claim. If you move to NZ and expect to continue with one-stop grocery shopping, and buying pre-made foods, etc... then yeah... expect to pay a great deal more than you would in the States. BUT, as I said, by putting a bit more effort and thought into meal planning and grocery purchases, one can still enjoy a healthy diet on a budget in NZ.
Again...gardening, farmers markets, independent grocers, and even purchasing from/exchanging with local gardeners and farmers in your area are all ways to save on whole foods.
Our family drinks a lot of almond milk. So our goal is to eventually include a few almond trees in our yard if/when we ever by a house. almonds+water+a high powered blender=almond milk. In the meantime, or if we cannot get some almond trees, we'll look for places to purchase almonds in bulk for cheaper, etc.
you want hispanic tortillas? make them. Its easy and they taste MUCH better than store bought ones.

You're right that we are spoiled when it comes to variety, convenience, and availability of foods here in the States. But we can't very well complain that food in NZ isn't like it is in the US because it's not the US. so I guess the question for expats is, "Do you want to live in NZ, or do you want to live in the US?"

We know when we move there won't be as much eating out, or pre-packaged/ready-to-eat foods, etc... but with a little more time spent planning and preparing meals, we'll still be able to eat healthy and well.
That's the thing though... we can either continue to shop and eat like Americans, and pay for it...or we can change the way we shop and eat, and maintain a comparable grocery bill and a healthy diet.

And yes, I would absolutely argue that NZ has healthier food in general that the US when it comes to meats and produce. I don't think I'll find it necessary to pay extra for organic meats in NZ, because conventional meat in NZ is not remotely the same thing as conventional meat in the States. Same goes with many dairy products and produce.

You seem to have your rose colored glasses on regarding NZ. And though you may THINK the country's "Green" imagine extends to food I at least believe you to be wrong. They carry the same "crap in a can" as we do, just on a much smaller level. Walk around and see some of the youth- they are becoming round waisted from processed modern "food"
You don't need to move across the globe to find healthy choices- it takes time and effort and in some areas $$$.

Not every item purchased in US grocers are full of pesticides and GMOs. Unfortunately we charge these poor farmers a pretty penny to carry that little organic label. Does NZ do the same? I've no idea...
FYI - NZ allows the use of HGP on cattle.
I don't eat beef so forgot to mention that detail.

I'm not giving my 2cents because I find NZ inferior to the US Quite the opposite in fact.
My point is- as I've said you will pay for your real food. No matter which country you live in.
And your NZ wage will be considerably smaller and wont go so far.... And people need to be aware of this. Especially those coming from THE cheapest developed nation in the world.... It's a huge sticker shock.... And we're only discussing food here, not furniture, cars or even houses!
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I'm sorry, but why is it that every expat with a positive opinion about anything with regards to NZ accused of looking through rose colored glasses? I was simply encouraging another potential expat (and I'm not sure why such a this has to be argued like it's controversial or something) that one CAN find good food, and create an affordable grocery bill for themselves in NZ. This was not meant to be a "the US is better than NZ" debate. (or vise versa)

And are you seriously going to argue that conventionally raised meat or conventionally grown produce in NZ (Or any developed nation for that matter) are even remotely as adulterated and unhealthy as US meats and produce? I'm not saying that NZ food is all pristine, but I would definitely argue that it is of better quality than conventional foods in the states. and I'm sorry but the legal use of HGP on cattle is not exactly gasp-worthy when you consider what the FDA allows in our food.

I don't think anyone here is considering a move to NZ for the purpose of "finding healthy choices." I think we can all agree that it is indeed easier and more affordable to find a greater variety of inexpensive healthy food choices in every flavor imaginable in a country as large as the United States. My guess is is that most move to NZ for same reason any expat moves to any other country in the world: a job, family, or the way of life as a whole.


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We will soon be moving to NZ from the States, and this had been one of my questions as well. We too are a family that eats a mostly whole foods/organic diet, and as I am studying to become a nutritionist, this topic was fairly important to me.

We have not lived in NZ yet, but did some thorough investigating on our first visit there...
Here's what I found:

Food purchased at supermarkets is, in general, more expensive than food purchased from a supermarket here in the States. I say "in general" because that only seems to apply if you are comparing NZ supermarkets with grocery stores like Smiths, Walmart, Fresh and Easy, etc... If you compare prices to those found in health foods stores here in the States like Whole Foods, Sprouts, etc... the cost is much more similar. Meat at New World in NZ, for example, was priced just slightly higher than Whole Foods Market here. But the produce in NZ, was priced much LESS per pound (or kilogram) than what you'd expect to pay at Whole Foods.

Also, I noticed many independently owned produce markets, butcher shops, and farmers markets, etc... all of which seemed to offer food at lower prices than the supermarkets.

As far as the quality of food... I spoke with numerous people on this topic while we visited NZ, and investigated many an ingredient label. Food is not quite the same in NZ as it is here in the States...and in a good way.

I recall speaking with a particular person about how lovely it was to see so many cows roaming openly, grazing on green grass... to which I was asked, "Well how else would you do it?" Lol. THAT response was definitely an encouraging one. I went on to explain the feed lot system in the US, and how cows and other animals could be more accurately described as manufactured than raised here.

Nearly every region we visited (North Island) was checkered with farms, orchards, etc. And Many of the homes had personal gardens. And certainly the average temperatures in most parts of the North Island should allow for nearly year-round gardening.

There are of course, still processed foods, fast food, and pesticides, etc. But these are not nearly as common in NZ as they are in the US. For example, in US cities, a macdonalds can be found on virtually every corner. In Auckland, Mcdonalds could only be found every other corner, or so. (I'm joking. There aren't THAT many Mcdonalds in either country. Lol. Oh, and in NZ, Mcdonalds has LAMBburgers on the menu. ) But hopefully you get the point. Unfortunately American food culture has spread, like the plague that it is, to NZ too. But good, REAL, whole foods were much more commonplace in NZ than in the States. IMO.

So basically, it seemed that for those of use coming from the States who have purchased the cheapest "food" possible, at the cheapest markets...the cost of food in NZ will seem outrageous. But if you're used to paying extra here in the States for organic whole foods and health foods, then the cost won't seem all that different in many cases.
Andit make take a bit more time and effort to go to farmers markets and independently owned grocers, etc...but you'll save money that way as well.
Wow. That's very encouraging! Thank you so much for all of that information! I had a slight idea that anywhere but the US would be better in the food area. I do spend extra money on the organic produce and meat, so I could see the price of food not being an issue for us. I am also very excited to garden there too! In Oklahoma, my veggies and herbs die by the middle of summer because the heat is so ridiculous. I do go to farmer markets on Saturdays, and I saw that every town in New Zealand has its own farmer's market (or Sunday Market), which is lovely. Sometimes I have to drive an hour away just to get decent food. I shop at sprouts, since whole foods is another hour drive for me; but, I have shopped there before! Thanks again!!

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You seem to have your rose colored glasses on regarding NZ. And though you may THINK the country's "Green" imagine extends to food I at least believe you to be wrong. They carry the same "crap in a can" as we do, just on a much smaller level. Walk around and see some of the youth- they are becoming round waisted from processed modern "food"
You don't need to move across the globe to find healthy choices- it takes time and effort and in some areas $$$.
You are right, it is easy to find bad things to eat here if you want to. And many of our youth do have unhealthy 'fast food' diets that is affecting their health.

But I think the point that Mrs Rose is making is you don't have to eat that! And if you choose to eat more healthily here then it is much easier to find meat that is not pumped full of hormones or GM free crops. In fact you's almost have to go out of your way to find some, simply because our farming methods are different.

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Not every item purchased in US grocers are full of pesticides and GMOs. Unfortunately we charge these poor farmers a pretty penny to carry that little organic label. Does NZ do the same? I've no idea...
There will be a small 'organic' section on most supermarkets, but I would say that generally all the stuff in the vegetable & meat section is pretty organic. So not many farmers choose to pay the extra and often exorbitant overheads that are required to say they are 'organic'

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FYI - NZ allows the use of HGP on cattle.
I don't eat beef so forgot to mention that detail.
I looked this up - and you are right, it is allowed. But we have a number of beef farmer friends and none of them use it. So, like the pesticides & GMOs you'd almost have to go out of your way to find a cut of meat from an animal that had been treated with HGP.

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I'm not giving my 2cents because I find NZ inferior to the US Quite the opposite in fact.
My point is- as I've said you will pay for your real food. No matter which country you live in.
And your NZ wage will be considerably smaller and wont go so far.... And people need to be aware of this. Especially those coming from THE cheapest developed nation in the world.... It's a huge sticker shock.... And we're only discussing food here, not furniture, cars or even houses!
The price of food seems to be a popular subject on this forum, so I'll put my two penn'orth in too.

In order to keep the cost of food down in New Zealand you need to shop outside the supermarkets, or keep an eye out for special offers.
And for fruit and vegetables you need to shop at the markets, and buy produce that is in season. Don't expect to buy strawberries, tomatoes & asparagus in August or you'll pay through the nose. Buy them in December and they'll be really cheap.

And bear in mind - our cows and sheep do not live in big barns, are not pumped up with hormones, and are not fed corn to fatten them up until they have intestinal problems. They live all year round on green grass, and at worse are fed hay that the farmer often cut himself in the summer months.

And as I say, I speak from the experience of knowing a number of North Island beef and sheep farmers now.
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TML, thank you for the added information. You're right in saying that NZ doesn't totally exclude GMOs, for I have read about that. But changing from a country that doesn't label GMOs (There is a big debacle about Whole Foods lying about some products being GMO free when those products actually contained them) to a country that has high standards is a huge improvement. I take my time when it comes to grocery shopping and planning, so that's not a problem for me--I love to cook! I am aware that prices of food is MUCH higher in NZ, but I think MrsRose was trying to say that it wouldn't shock me THAT much, since I'm used to seeing a higher bill for higher quality of food. My husband and I are willing to pay extra money or the high quality food--especially since we both notice a huge difference in our health when we switched over to organic! Thanks for the input, everyone!

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