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We have just had another " Thanks But No Thanks " to our job applications.

Carole has to date applied for over 123 jobs on both Islands myself about 20 so with
this last- Not On Your Nellie we are looking into Shipping etc etc.

Our regret is that we could not gain employment and give it a good go.

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Hi mike , is that's your name ? We went out to new Zealand last year for a month to get our visa stamp which then gave us 2years to return, We have until next August .We did enjoy our stay but found it was on par with UK and we do worry about the wages and being able to getting work. I would love to hear more about your time in new Zealand if you can message me that would be great not sure if you can do that on this forum .

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We currently have a 3 bed home and have no heating, no tumble drier and our power bill is $250 per month I am sure I could centrally heat a home and more for that back in the UK our water here is $50-70 per month again we only take showers we have a new washing machine on ecconomy we paid slightly more in uk living in South west but that was double what we paid in Oxfordshire before as SW have a premium for the beaches. We pay between $200-$250pw for food that is very seasonal and limited ie if its not in season is either astronomical in price or not there some weeks there is little choice on vegs we like. That is not eating fancy either we pay $650pw rent thats 1300 GBP for a badly insulated shed with no heat and all the timer work is rotten
do you really think GB is comparable? the only thing cheaper is petrol. If you have children at school you are typically paying $500-1000 per anum per child for donations and stationary etc, GP visits are between $50-70 just to see the GP repeat prescriptions $30 to get the prescription let alone any drugs.
Do not get me wrong I do not hate this place but I hardly think expenditure is comparable. As for leisure you can go many places in UK and get decent accomodation for as little as 30 per night here you are talking minimum $100 per night for basic outdated accomodation. we travelled with the inlaws to Taupo last year and spend $300+ for a night and to be honest a rundown travel lodge would have been better in the UK next to the M6 and I bet cheaper1

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As I said I have not regretted living here and seeing other cultures however it does open your eyes to how good the UK is and what UK people fail to see before their eyes. There is lots of stunning scenery on your doorstep, lots of lovley history, and many things to do with little or no effort. cheap breaks to the continent are available to as well as the ast choice in anything you purchase. Living here as made me less materialistic I no longer will care about driving a 6 yr old car it will be cheaper than here and the choice will be vast. The only thing I am going to have todo is smarten up my wardrobe and buy winter clothersbut prices of decent clothes in the UK are good and will last a lot longer
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Hi mike , is that's your name ? We went out to new Zealand last year for a month to get our visa stamp which then gave us 2years to return, We have until next August .We did enjoy our stay but found it was on par with UK and we do worry about the wages and being able to getting work. I would love to hear more about your time in new Zealand if you can message me that would be great not sure if you can do that on this forum .
Hi Mia, sorry not sure how to message you on this forum. I guess at the end of the day you just have to go and make up your own mind but do be aware that you will be spending a lot of money getting set up. Things are not up to th same standard as the UK so be prepared to find the houses pretty poor with little heating and high cases of damp and mildew. One house we lived in was so bad we had a have a dehumidifier on 24hours.

To list the dowsides of NZ -
Very pricey houses
very expensive rent
expensive clothes
expensive groceries
expensive cars
no culture
hard to make friends (with kiwis)
high crime rate
very far away from anything
unless you are really into the outdoors, boring
weather not as great as you are led to believe(on par with UK)

Positives
nice scenery
fuel cheaper but going up fast


this is what we found but as I said you just have to find out for yourself.

I think you have to be a certain type of person to really enjoy living in New Zealand, not someone that likes going to see top shows or enjoying good nightlife or enjoys a cultural existence. Gum boots, rugby and fishing is what New Zealand is about.
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I have to say I do struggle to understand why people get upset at the cost of living and wages in NZ. NZ is the most isolated developed country in the world with a population barely exceeding Wales, it should really be fairly obvious wages are not exactly going to be world leading. You can see a similar, if watered down, effect in the UK - I used to live in Bristol but worked in Cardiff. The wages for my exact same job in Bristol were always 15% or so more than Cardiff, simply beacuse Wales was a smaller more 'remote' country yet overall the cost of living was about the same.

Also the world is simply an expensive place to live these days and when you combine that with a country that is clearly going to have less goods competition and choice, prices are going to be high. As I said I think this should be a fairly common sense observation before people even get on the plane. I don't understand why people who clearly value cheap goods and variety and choice choose somewhere like NZ over the US, Europe or Australia.

For me I came to NZ because I desperately wanted the outdoor lifestyle and love surfing and wanted to live by the sea whilst also being able to have a city job. In this sense NZ was an obvious choice and has more than lived up to expectations - in the last month or so of weekends I have surfed on white sand beaches in clear blue water on hot days with no one around in Gisborne and north of Auckland, trekked around the foot of an erupting volcano, swum with dolphins in the Bay of Islands, camped almost every weekend and had bbqs with my girlfriend on deserted white sand beaches as the sun sets just 45 minutes from Auckland. In the next few weekends I will hopefully start sailing on the Hauraki gulf from right outside my front door.

This is why I came to NZ and being able to have weekends like that on a regular basis was simply not possible in the UK year round.

My gf misses M&S but neither of us came here hoping to find the perfect department store. I have no idea if we will stay here forever or end up trying Oz or going back home. I don't really care what happens in the next few years as I just want to enjoy the time we are here and enjoy the frankly wordlclass leisure opps that NZ has to offer.

I think people put pressure on themselves to settle somewhere straight away and make it something that has to last forever. If you live in the future too much you won't enjoy the present. If we end up moving home (prob ultimately cos my gf misses her family) NZ will just be an awesome time we had together doing some incredible things - would be a shame to look back on these experiences as a big mistake.

Just to add - I find our cost of living prob comparable to the UK, maybe only slightly more. Some things more expensive, some things cheaper. However, our lifestyle is better. Our rent is about twice the price it was in the UK but we pay no council tax equivalent and have a 3 bedroom modern warm house 2mins from the water in Devonport whereas our flat in the UK was one bedroom in a rough part of Bristol. I get a ferry to work that costs about 4 quid a day as opposed to the nightmare that is the overpriced UK train system.

We have a tumble dryer (that my gf uses every bl**dy day!), dishwasher, bath, heating and our power bills are between $100-150 a month with powershop. Food shopping is slightly more expensive than UK with less choice but you can still eat well so it's not a concern.

I went to the GP the other day for holiday jabs and paid the $70 for a first appoint but in that the doc gave me 3 prescriptions included in the price.

We have stayed all over N Island and stayed in some overpriced places and some very good and cheap places. The campsites are all pretty good too for the price and better than the UK on the whole. I haven't really found holiday accom better or worse than the UK. It's like anywhere - there are good and bad places. I certainly had the misfortune to stay in some god awful travel lodges in the UK!

I am loving my time in NZ (although I hate my job, as I did in the UK - but that is due to some poor careers decisions at 18 rather than NZ!). I am finding the people friendly and willing to make friends if you put the effort in, just like anywhere. When I think about it my friends at home were all old school and uni friends which it took me 35 years to make - so I can't expect to be on the same level of friends after 6 months in a foreign country. I do find Kiwis quite reserved though so you have to make the effort with them to invite round etc which I am not naturally very good at so struggle a bit!

For me NZ is an awesome country to live in, and there have been no surprises. If what you want out of life is shopping, cheap broadband and holidays to Europe I don't see why NZ would even be on the radar. As a recruitment agent said to me a few years ago when I was thinking about the move - don't come to New Zealand for money, come for the love, of one kind or another!
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I have to say I do struggle to understand why people get upset at the cost of living and wages in NZ. NZ is the most isolated developed country in the world with a population barely exceeding Wales, it should really be fairly obvious wages are not exactly going to be world leading. You can see a similar, if watered down, effect in the UK - I used to live in Bristol but worked in Cardiff. The wages for my exact same job in Bristol were always 15% or so more than Cardiff, simply beacuse Wales was a smaller more 'remote' country yet overall the cost of living was about the same.

Also the world is simply an expensive place to live these days and when you combine that with a country that is clearly going to have less goods competition and choice, prices are going to be high. As I said I think this should be a fairly common sense observation before people even get on the plane. I don't understand why people who clearly value cheap goods and variety and choice choose somewhere like NZ over the US, Europe or Australia.

For me I came to NZ because I desperately wanted the outdoor lifestyle and love surfing and wanted to live by the sea whilst also being able to have a city job. In this sense NZ was an obvious choice and has more than lived up to expectations - in the last month or so of weekends I have surfed on white sand beaches in clear blue water on hot days with no one around in Gisborne and north of Auckland, trekked around the foot of an erupting volcano, swum with dolphins in the Bay of Islands, camped almost every weekend and had bbqs with my girlfriend on deserted white sand beaches as the sun sets just 45 minutes from Auckland. In the next few weekends I will hopefully start sailing on the Hauraki gulf from right outside my front door.

This is why I came to NZ and being able to have weekends like that on a regular basis was simply not possible in the UK year round.

My gf misses M&S but neither of us came here hoping to find the perfect department store. I have no idea if we will stay here forever or end up trying Oz or going back home. I don't really care what happens in the next few years as I just want to enjoy the time we are here and enjoy the frankly wordlclass leisure opps that NZ has to offer.

I think people put pressure on themselves to settle somewhere straight away and make it something that has to last forever. If you live in the future too much you won't enjoy the present. If we end up moving home (prob ultimately cos my gf misses her family) NZ will just be an awesome time we had together doing some incredible things - would be a shame to look back on these experiences as a big mistake.

Just to add - I find our cost of living prob comparable to the UK, maybe only slightly more. Some things more expensive, some things cheaper. However, our lifestyle is better. Our rent is about twice the price it was in the UK but we pay no council tax equivalent and have a 3 bedroom modern warm house 2mins from the water in Devonport whereas our flat in the UK was one bedroom in a rough part of Bristol. I get a ferry to work that costs about 4 quid a day as opposed to the nightmare that is the overpriced UK train system.

We have a tumble dryer (that my gf uses every bl**dy day!), dishwasher, bath, heating and our power bills are between $100-150 a month with powershop. Food shopping is slightly more expensive than UK with less choice but you can still eat well so it's not a concern.

I went to the GP the other day for holiday jabs and paid the $70 for a first appoint but in that the doc gave me 3 prescriptions included in the price.

We have stayed all over N Island and stayed in some overpriced places and some very good and cheap places. The campsites are all pretty good too for the price and better than the UK on the whole. I haven't really found holiday accom better or worse than the UK. It's like anywhere - there are good and bad places. I certainly had the misfortune to stay in some god awful travel lodges in the UK!

I am loving my time in NZ (although I hate my job, as I did in the UK - but that is due to some poor careers decisions at 18 rather than NZ!). I am finding the people friendly and willing to make friends if you put the effort in, just like anywhere. When I think about it my friends at home were all old school and uni friends which it took me 35 years to make - so I can't expect to be on the same level of friends after 6 months in a foreign country. I do find Kiwis quite reserved though so you have to make the effort with them to invite round etc which I am not naturally very good at so struggle a bit!

For me NZ is an awesome country to live in, and there have been no surprises. If what you want out of life is shopping, cheap broadband and holidays to Europe I don't see why NZ would even be on the radar. As a recruitment agent said to me a few years ago when I was thinking about the move - don't come to New Zealand for money, come for the love, of one kind or another!

I do agree with what you are saying, don't expect NZ to be like Europe because it's not. However I think a lot of people do go to NZ only to realise they have made a mistake. The immigration department only tell you so much and most of that is hype. Nice scenery though and I had some good surfs on the esat coast of Auckland when it wasn't flat. West coast tended to be blown out a lot by those westerly winds. I lived in Devon and Cornwall before I went to NZ and I can say that all you described can be had there. In fact as far as Auckland goes I would rate south west UK to be much better for surf.
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Hey Mike

I do find the surf frustrating - glad its not just me! Was hoping for regular surfing but like you say the west coast is always huge and onshore and the east coast swells are so short lived and sod's law dictates only occur during the week!

The surfing is only reason we might end up going to Australia to be honest. I need regular surf access!!!

You living down near Hossegor or Biarritz now then?

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Hi toadsurfer , that was a really good post I enjoyed reading it .

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Thank-you mike for your reply .

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