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I'm new here in this forum. I have visited a lot of sites on Mexico and it's visa laws. I was not able to find a clear answer to the following issue.

My question is regarding how long a person must stay out of Mexico before they can come back in and acquire another six month visa?

My thinking here is that I can not afford to meet the "retiree" requirements of Mexico. But I still want to finish my retirement outside of America. What better place than Mexico.

Six years ago I left the Philippines and returned to America in 2005. I had lived in Malaysia for my first six months outside America back in 1996. The rest of the time I spent in the Philippines (for ten years). Once a year I had to take a trip out of the Philippines for a weekend and than return. During each year I could renew my tourist visa every three months while in country up to one year.

I would rather stay closer to the States this time.

Would anyone who may have the answer to this question please respond.

I thank you in advance for your time and kindness.

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My question is regarding how long a person must stay out of Mexico before they can come back in and acquire another six month visa?
As long as it takes you to turn around and come back in.

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I'm new here in this forum. I have visited a lot of sites on Mexico and it's visa laws. I was not able to find a clear answer to the following issue.

My question is regarding how long a person must stay out of Mexico before they can come back in and acquire another six month visa?

My thinking here is that I can not afford to meet the "retiree" requirements of Mexico. But I still want to finish my retirement outside of America. What better place than Mexico.

Six years ago I left the Philippines and returned to America in 2005. I had lived in Malaysia for my first six months outside America back in 1996. The rest of the time I spent in the Philippines (for ten years). Once a year I had to take a trip out of the Philippines for a weekend and than return. During each year I could renew my tourist visa every three months while in country up to one year.

I would rather stay closer to the States this time.

Would anyone who may have the answer to this question please respond.

I thank you in advance for your time and kindness.

David
FWIW, Mexico is inside America too. If you want to live outside of America you must live on another continent.

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Europeans and most non Spanish speaking people, except English speaking North Americans, mean the USA when say America. (And even a lot of the excluded ones also do so)

This perpetual nitpicking may be correct, but it sure is useless.
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First, the FMM is 180 days and not 6 months and that can be important as people have been tripped up.
Technically, I think that there are restrictions but practically, it has never been a problem to leave and then turnaround and come back. As immigration systems get better, who knows.
Remember that if you also brought a car in with temporary permit, it must go to the border with you and have sticker removed.
BTW, keep the receipt as proof that car left.
Expect that you & I were in ASEAN for overlapping period. I arrived Singapore in 1997 and covered India to the Philippines until end 1999.

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So far so good.

Thank you dongringo.

Though I may have misspoken on America vs USA I asked for constructive help and not some wise-ass put down comment which only nitpicked my questions with useless information that is a distraction from my questions.

Hopefully this forum is more in line with answers like dongringo's first response and conklinwh's extensive detailed response. Again THANKS to both of you.

Your information has been very enlightening and responsive. I hope some day to have an opportunity to meet both of you.

Now I have some follow up questions, if you don't mind. Unless you think I should start a new thread?

1) How hard is it to get a "FMM" visa and would I do that at the boarder?

1) Since you mentioned a car conklinwh; how hard is it to bring my 2000 Ford minivan into Mexico? Also would that be a safe venture to attempt?

2) Where are the safest places to live? Keep in mind that I would need cheap rent (say around US $300/month), and really don't mind living among respectful locals.

I live alone, except for my cat, and I learned how to live cheap while in the Philippines. BTW conklinwh, I would like to continue a discussion on the Philippines someday.

If you two have the time for these follow up questions I again appreciate the time you are spending answering them; me being a stranger to you.

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So far so good.

Thank you dongringo.

Though I may have misspoken on America vs USA I asked for constructive help and not some wise-ass put down comment which only nitpicked my questions with useless information that is a distraction from my questions.

Hopefully this forum is more in line with answers like dongringo's first response and conklinwh's extensive detailed response. Again THANKS to both of you.

Your information has been very enlightening and responsive. I hope some day to have an opportunity to meet both of you.

Now I have some follow up questions, if you don't mind. Unless you think I should start a new thread?

1) How hard is it to get a "FMM" visa and would I do that at the boarder?

1) Since you mentioned a car conklinwh; how hard is it to bring my 2000 Ford minivan into Mexico? Also would that be a safe venture to attempt?

2) Where are the safest places to live? Keep in mind that I would need cheap rent (say around US $300/month), and really don't mind living among respectful locals.

I live alone, except for my cat, and I learned how to live cheap while in the Philippines. BTW conklinwh, I would like to continue a discussion on the Philippines someday.

If you two have the time for these follow up questions I again appreciate the time you are spending answering them; me being a stranger to you.

David
1)Both questions: FMM is very simple to get at immigration after you clear the border at basically any crossing. All you need is your passport and some cash or credit card. You go to the window to get FMM form(bring a pen), fill it out and go back to the window. Where you pay varies a little by crossing point but person will tell you. BTW, make sure FMM is for 180 days. When you say "bring in car", I assume that initially you mean temporarily import. No problem with 2000 minivan as we have multiple in our small town. To do this after immigration, go to copy window. They will ask for FMM, driver's license, title or registration, & passport. Pay for the copies and go to Banjercito window to complete import, pay(I like credit card hear because of deposit required if cash-see other thread).
Remember to keep the paper handy after removing the sticker as will be asked for it at checkpoints. BTW, the expiration date on car permit will match FMM and the car needs to go with you if you leave. What you should do in advance is Mexican Auto Insurance as US doesn't cover you. There are multiple online sites that do comparisons of options. I'd do min of 6 mo but full year probably only a small bump.
As to crossing, we come from the east so we like to cross on the east side of the Texas border. Our preferred crossing is Los Indios south of Harlingen TX. There had been a lot of cartel activity with police involvement in Tamaulipas so we have temporarily shifted to Laredo/Nuevo Laredo to max cuotas(toll roads) even though we have a lot of friends that almost shuttle between Mineral de Pozos, where we live in Mexico, and South Padre Island with no problems. Since military now replaced most of the Tamaulipas police departments, they do see a lot more soldiers on the road to Ciudad Victoria.
2) As to safe cities, you will get as many folks chiming in on what you mean safe as you will their little part of Mexico. I'm no different, I live in Mineral de Pozos and feel very safe. Before deciding to build in Pozos we rented 4 years in San Miguel, a great transition by the way, and felt very safe there. The weekly dual language newspaper, the Atencion, publishes a police blotter each week and there is a slow increase in street crime but still a lot less than a comparable US city. We rented a 3BR, 2.5BA casita for $300/month in Pozos while we were building. It is now for sale so don't know about renting. Also, we have friends in San Miguel that live well for very little including one woman that rents 3BR apt. with rooftop terrace a 10 min want to centro for less than $200/mo so can be done.

Expect that you lived in Cebu which I hear is great. I spent almost all my time in the Philippines in and around Manila on business. Never did get much time to explore.

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I hung out in Zamboanga City for a while in the 70's, and although I spoke no Tagalog, I got along great in Spanish.

Drop the "respectful locals" remark about Mexican neighborhoods! You'll be tolerated almost anywhere with a 300 dollar housing budget, except where rich Mexicans live.

As for safety, if you made it to the US/Mex border ok, you'll do fine further south. Ignore the narco specialists on this board.
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WOW!!!

What a wealth of informed information ... Thanks ... I'll be busy now checking out the map for destinations with a nice place to live there. Also plan out a route for my migration this fall or early winter.

Have to put together some more funds and tire up loose ends here.

Man am I getting more excited once again in my life.

Once I'm able to direct mail you guys I would like to visit more on the Philippines.

Yes conklinwh, you're correct about Cebu. Was it that obvious?

I did spent a couple years during my stay in Manila and surrounding areas; Cavite, Las Piņas, and Quezon City as well as right in Manila near the US Embassy. What an experience!

Never made it to Zamboanga City dongringo. Spent the majority of my time in and around Cebu City, Bohol, and short stay to the east of Cagayan de Oro.

Ran into a NPA armed patrol on a jungle path in Bohol one day. They just wanted to know if I had paid my revolutionary tax yet. Very nice folks; polite and all.

Overall interesting stay in the Philippines. Biggest "cultural" shock were the arm guards at almost all the shops and malls.

I had a Filipino gal whom I met in Malaysia and was very helpful during my stay in the Philippines. We were together for 16 years and recently broke it off. Long distance relationships really don't work.

By "respectful locals" I just meant polite and not much very loud music late night. Nothing personal toward the Mexican folks; disrespectful folks can be of any race and nationality.

Are there any online sites where I can find listings of rental properties in different parts of the country.

Preference might be for me to stay near water and within an even temperature (75 to 85 degrees) year round area. I have some joint problems that can be aggravated by high humidity.

What else should I be aware of that you may think or feel would be helpful?

David

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BTW, Texas might be the way I come. Lived 12 years in Fort Worth area in the 1980's and early 90's.

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