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He didn't make that choice because back in the late forties it was expected that if a man had the ability to pursue higher education and land a "good" job, that's what was expected in middle class US society. And at the time he went into engineering, he didn't really think about the fact that he'd be happier working on cars all day and running his own business rather than sitting at a desk all day. Experience is the best teacher and hindsight is a useless thing if it's too late to change course :-)
And that 40s formula worked for all American society right? Latinos, blacks, asians, women
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Well Gary in the 40´s a man was white..never mind the others..
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And that 40s formula worked for all American society right? Latinos, blacks, asians, women
Of course it didn't. Sorry to have generalized, I was just thinking about the kind of expectations my dad experienced back then, who was white (though a minority in that he was Jewish). White middle class women were expected to stay home and take care of the house and kids after WWII (advertising was actually pointedly designed to glorify housekeeping, with women going into nearly orgasmic rapture over their clean floors and laundry) because so many women were working during the war and the returning men wanted their jobs back and the wifies safely ensconsed at home. I don't know what the expectations were for middle class Latinos, blacks or Asians, simply because they weren't part of my world at that time. I don't recall there being even one black student in my suburban Kansas high school population of 2800 and there certainly weren't any Latinos or Asians.


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I was raised in a system were kids were screened and their futue was decide by age 11 or so.. The problem is that kids do not develop at the ame age some mature early some do not and it was practically impossible to switch from one system to another. There was also a social stygma against the kids chosing trade schools..but then France is very class conscious and has a stilted society.
This is a recurrent theme of mine (in a way). France is often associated with human rights. Everyone has the same rights == everyone has to be the same. Only 10% or so of France spoke "French" (langues d'oïl) at the time of the revolution. That diversity isn't such a "problem" today. Even today, the Basque language in France is deteriorating (a great deal compared to Spain).

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Different mixes in different places, for sure.
I grew up in the 40s-50s in a remote northeast town. I never saw a black person until the mid-50s, and just never gave it any thought, as I had seen pictures of them before. Our area was predominantly white French Catholic, with a scattering of a protestant minority, and even a few ethnic Italians, and other Europeans, as the government settled some refugees in the area in the '40s.
That was my world, until I left home for University in 1955. Then, I began to learn more about the wider world, and to explore it.
Violence seems to be universal, unfortunately. It stems from fear.
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The blacks I grew up with were rich, the poor migrants were Poles and Italians, Spaniards, Portuguese and the really poor ones wee from North Africa although they were French so not considered migrants.

Yes every country had different mixes..
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Of course it didn't. Sorry to have generalized . . . I don't know what the expectations were for middle class Latinos, blacks or Asians, simply because they weren't part of my world at that time. I don't recall there being even one black student in my suburban Kansas high school population of 2800 and there certainly weren't any Latinos or Asians.
I remember my elementary, junior high and high school classes . . . Blacks, Japanese, Latinos, Catholic, Jewish, Christian, Buddist ( Hari Krishna ) . . . with after school intramural sports, and most of us got part-time jobs . . . Class of '70 with 248 seniors . . .

I believe my point from my experience is simply, I was able to learn and work for others, gaining respect, an appreciation for my $1.65/hr pay ( and what that could buy ) . . . I didn't learn envy, nor "I'm better that you" . . . I just appreciated the few friends I pal'd around with . . . have a few friends to this day . . . grins . . . con una sonrisa
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Now Philadelphia, and in Mexico bodies keep “appearing “
It’ll get worse
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Well Gary in the 40´s a man was white..never mind the others..
If you want to make this from a more Mexican point of view, in the 40's a man was in the Mestizo mainstream in an urban environment (of course Spanish-speaking)... never mind the others (rural, indigenous, etc).

The rural schools were in full operation to teach people to be ashamed of their language, that's when my area lost its monolingual local language.
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