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ojosazules11 6th July 2019 05:35 PM

What keeps you in (or coming back to) Mexico?
 
Given my frustration with current threads which focus only on the violence and corruption in Mexico, I decided to be proactive and start a thread about the reasons people choose to remain living in Mexico (or returning on a regular basis, as I do, since I’m not yet retired). I think very few people living in Mexico for any length of time remain unaware of the huge sociopolitical problems the country faces. However, many choose to make this their home regardless.

I’m very interested in knowing why. What is it about Mexico that has captured your heart?

lagoloo 6th July 2019 06:03 PM

My husband and I moved from CA to Mexico nearly 15 years ago. We lived in SMA for three years and moved to Ajijic in 2008. We have only been back to the U.S. once: four days for a family funeral. Cross my fingers, but we've had no crime problems and live in a mixed neighborhood downtown. People are friendly and helpful. We became involved in a local professional and charitable organization and have been well content with life. A minor thing, but our income goes much farther here than it would have in CA, so we've been able to afford a few "luxuries" as well as covering the necessities of an expat life. In short...we're here for the long haul and happy.

I'm well aware of the trouble that exists in various places in Mexico and do my best to avoid situations that could be dangerous. However, I lived in the big cities in CA and there is plenty of trouble there, too. In general, one can focus on the negatives...anywhere. Who needs that?

AlanMexicali 6th July 2019 07:05 PM

Good post. I lived in San Diego for 33 years. I would not go back even though we own a condo there. I prefer Mexico for similar reasons you do plus my wife is from San Luis Potosi where we live.

lagoloo 6th July 2019 07:53 PM

That last reason is a good one!!

TundraGreen 6th July 2019 07:56 PM

I like the lifestyle. I live in a neighborhood where I can walk one block to a mercado, two hardware stores, a several copy shops, several printers, several beer sellers. It is one block to half a dozen bus routes going all over the city. There is a shared bicycle system.

I have lots of friends, more than in the US, partly because I put more energy into finding friends here, but partly because of the different culture.

I like the climate. I grew up in Alaska. I know how to drive on ice and shovel snow, but I am happy not to have to. However, I note that it was hotter in Anchorage than Guadalajara last week, and until Monday the highs and lows are almost exactly the same.

I like the bright colors and the sounds: Steam whistles, cow bells, and all.

I like that I can walk from my house in the middle of a major metropolitan area out into the country side.

One aspect that appeals to me is the fact that it is a poorer country. Although there are many downsides to this, one upside is that there is less conspicuous consumption and "supersizing" of everything that seems to happen north of the border.

Finally, the cost of living is not a bad deal either, although what is it with the price of avocadoes lately?

citlali 7th July 2019 01:35 AM

We enjoy living in Mexico.. We like the aeas we have chosen to live in and thanks to the locals our lives have been enriched..Life down here is more family oriented and more basic and it is very refreshing. In San CCristobal we enjoy exactly what Tundra green enjoys, walking everywhere, walking to the markets, shopping for fresh food every day being in the middle of a cty and not having to drive is a luxury In Ajijic we enjoy the climate the garden and its vegetatin and the proximity to a large city if we want or need to go to one.. The amenties up here are very good.. not so great in Chiapas.. We enjoy the contrast between the two cultures and have no plan to ever live.

GARYJ65 8th July 2019 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TundraGreen (Post 14901210)
I like the lifestyle. I live in a neighborhood where I can walk one block to a mercado, two hardware stores, a several copy shops, several printers, several beer sellers. It is one block to half a dozen bus routes going all over the city. There is a shared bicycle system.

I have lots of friends, more than in the US, partly because I put more energy into finding friends here, but partly because of the different culture.

I like the climate. I grew up in Alaska. I know how to drive on ice and shovel snow, but I am happy not to have to. However, I note that it was hotter in Anchorage than Guadalajara last week, and until Monday the highs and lows are almost exactly the same.

I like the bright colors and the sounds: Steam whistles, cow bells, and all.

I like that I can walk from my house in the middle of a major metropolitan area out into the country side.

One aspect that appeals to me is the fact that it is a poorer country. Although there are many downsides to this, one upside is that there is less conspicuous consumption and "supersizing" of everything that seems to happen north of the border.

Finally, the cost of living is not a bad deal either, although what is it with the price of avocadoes lately?

You lost me with that “poorer country” comment

perropedorro 8th July 2019 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GARYJ65 (Post 14902204)
You lost me with that “poorer country” comment

There are several forms of poverty and perhaps TG should have been more specific. I stay here because I find that Mexico is richer in social and family relations, while the U.S. is relatively poor in that regard. Regarding economic poverty, there are several dimensions to that also. Fortunately Mexico doesn't exhibit widespread grinding misery found in the much of the world, but general economic prosperity isn't always the cure for that. I spent 25 years working not far from skid row in L.A., adjacent to some of the most expensive real estate in the world, and saw more human misery and wretched conditions than I've seen anywhere in Mexico. Anyway, mild poverty often has the effect of families pooling resources and prioritize purchases which can be a good counter to excessive consumerism which might be confused with prosperity on this or that index, but really isn't. Just compare what's collected on garbage day. Not that Mexicans are immune to loading up "stuff" (IMO the small wealthy class is even more ostentatious than its NOB counterpart) but I don't run into them much.

citlali 8th July 2019 05:28 PM

We had a warehouse on East Ninth and had to go through East 4th .. that was many years ago but there are plenty of areas in Mexico city that are very similar.

TundraGreen 8th July 2019 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by perropedorro (Post 14902334)
There are several forms of poverty and perhaps TG should have been more specific. I stay here because I find that Mexico is richer in social and family relations, while the U.S. is relatively poor in that regard. Regarding economic poverty, there are several dimensions to that also. Fortunately Mexico doesn't exhibit widespread grinding misery found in the much of the world, but general economic prosperity isn't always the cure for that. I spent 25 years working not far from skid row in L.A., adjacent to some of the most expensive real estate in the world, and saw more human misery and wretched conditions than I've seen anywhere in Mexico. Anyway, mild poverty often has the effect of families pooling resources and prioritize purchases which can be a good counter to excessive consumerism which might be confused with prosperity on this or that index, but really isn't. Just compare what's collected on garbage day. Not that Mexicans are immune to loading up "stuff" (IMO the small wealthy class is even more ostentatious than its NOB counterpart) but I don't run into them much.

Thanks, Perro. I couldn't have said it better myself.


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