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Old 12th June 2019, 01:02 PM
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Even if this is true... Many Mexicans trust the cartel more than thier own government officials!
Maybe it depends on the region, but in my experience many more Mexicans see the cartels as a “cancer” that is ruining their country.

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Unless you lve in the headquarters of the bg bosses or listen to Dr Medeles, all the people I know in Jalisco , Chiapas and Oaxaca do not trust the cartes or the government which is usually mixed up with one of the cartel.. t is often difficult to separate them from each other ..The Robin hood legend is alive and well but I do not know anyone who really believes it.

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thirty two execution last week in Oaxaca so if that is the safest state n the union, gives you an idea of the rest of the country...

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thirty two execution last week in Oaxaca so if that is the safest state n the union, gives you an idea of the rest of the country...
.000806% of the population of the state of Oaxaca each week..
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which is approximately a yearly average of .04% of the population of the state of Oaxaca
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still 32 families losing their relatives.. it is easy to reduce everything to statistic not so easy when .00000001 is your relative..

Look I have led here since 2001 and I am not worried about the cartels here more than I was about mass shooting in the States..

The reality is thatt there is no safe place if you are involved in one of these shootings and every place is safe if you are not involved..

When the son of a friend of ours disappeared and then was found with a narco manta in the Chapala area, people called us and told us to stay away from the woman who had lost her son because it was a cartel murder and that they could come after friends and family. We ignored the advice but this is when you feel that fear in your stomach and that is ugly, people coming to work for us were afraid , and their friends were afraid. The statistics make zero difference, once you understand that , you are beginning to feel for the people who lose people and leave their country out of fear and know tht statistics are irrelevant.

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""thirty two execution last week in Oaxaca so if that is the safest state in the union, gives you an idea of the rest of the country...""

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.000806% of the population of the state of Oaxaca each week..
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which is approximately a yearly average of .04% of the population of the state of Oaxaca

It would be sad if the murders had happened in a pueblito of only 60 residents...
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Who did you expect to control the “smuggling areas”
The local chamber of commerce?
The Catholic Church?
Boy Scouts if America?
No one.
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Even if this is true... Many Mexicans trust the cartel more than thier own government officials
As well they should.
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Maybe it depends on the region, but in my experience many more Mexicans see the cartels as a “cancer” that is ruining their country.
Gee, that's funny. That's how most Americans see the GOP. We don't trust our government either, because they are aligned with foreign criminal gangs and murderers.
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Apples and oranges, usually the US police does not deliver people to get murdered by gangs neither are they involved in kidnapping people and so on..

or involved in murdering 43 students...

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