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Old 18th May 2019, 01:34 AM
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A comment on two points: noise and city centers.

I live almost exactly in the middle of Guadalajara. I am about 1 km from the Catedral which most would probably call the exact middle of the city. I live on a side street between two heavily traveled streets with bus routes. Out on the street it is quite noisy, but once I close my front door, I hear almost none of it. Visitors often comment on how surprisingly quiet it is inside. I live in an old house with thick adobe walls so that helps some but the windows are single pane and don't seal at all. Mostly it is just not noisy indoors. Except for the sirens (there are have four or so hospitals within a few blocks) nothing much can be heard inside. I had a friend in San Diego who lived a kilometer or so away from a freeway and the noise in her house was much more annoying than where I live now. I don't know about the city center of Tepic, although I have passed through Tepic often, but a city center is not always frenetic. It all depends on the details of the neighborhood and street.
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yes that is so true especially of the old houses, once you enter it is peace and quiet from the street. The houses were built to escape from the street it seemsOnce you enter you are in your private area. In Chiapas the old houses often were built without any windowa on the street . Later on people remodelled them and put a few windows and then the noise comes in but really only in the rooms on the street with windows, the rooms on the patio are really quiet, I love that type of construction.

I was in Guadalajara centro today and it was plenty frenetic on the street and hot but as you say enter some houses and it is quiet.. amazing.


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I live in a very old house, too. The adobe walls do a great job of cutting down the noise, but it also helps if the house is set back from the street, with a wall on the street.

Some people coming from NOB (north of the border) hate the idea of walled houses with bars on the windows, but it's good to remember that this is not to keep you walled in, but to keep the unwanted OUT.

I think the idea of labeling everything in Spanish is great!

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Funny when I came to the States I hated the open yards and the windows without shutters, it all depends on what you are used to. I love having a private garden or patio closed to the world. it is like being in a cocoon..
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Can you please stop being so negative in every post. It's really upsetting to me. I'm trying to be positive about leaving my country and moving to a strange place, and you are bringing me down. It's one thing to be honest, another to be cruel.
Deb- I haven't seen anything even remotely cruel in Citlali's responses here- I think you are not understanding where she is coming from. I don't know her personally, but as far as I have been able to gather by her posts on this, and many other threads, she is extremely knowledgeable about many parts of Mexico, speaks fluent Spanish, as well as some native languages and is also quite straightforward. I think she is originally European- they don't have the same concern with couching everything in "nice"language that Americans have. She has been giving you valuable information. Do you want to embark on this new chapter of your life wearing rose-colored glasses, or armed with a lot of practical info?
She is giving far more realistic information than what you may see on videos designed for those who want to retire in Mexico, henceforth being known as "expats" (I hate that term, myself)
Being honest and realistic is not the same thing as being negative, even if if it's something you'd rather not hear.

As for Huatulco, I haven't been anywhere near there for about 30 years- when I was there, the locals told me people were being kicked off their ancestral lands so that the developers could turn it into a vacation destination.

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Citlali is native French and speaks many languages. She's even learned the language of some native people in the Chiapas area. She is also a true realist, and what she posts is nothin' but the truth. It may be disillusioning, but it's worth listening to as good information.
I moved to Mexico full time 15 years ago. It's nothing like I expected it to be: in some ways, it's better and in some, very challenging. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else now.
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Yes Huatulco like Cancun were made by the government and locals sold too cheap and moved out of their ejidos or the beach part of it and resent seeing the land that was worth nothing sell for a fortune in their eyes..
The same thing is happening in Tulum and other places all over the coast. On the Guerrero coast you can still find all kinds of villages that did not sell out to the developpers but that does not make them nice places to live in.. If you want to live like the locals and be part of the community I would think you can be accepted but very few people want to change their life that much or spend the time it takes to understand the rules.

I am not recommendng that anyone move to Guerrero but there are lots of places on the coast that are not touristy unfortunately in many of these areas people lack amenities the foreigners like. So on the coast , it is back to square one, move to a place that has snowbirds and tourists. An yes I maintain that Puerto Econdido is full of tourists, full of Italians wanting to surf, full of post hippy types and "cool" people wanting to live the good life, the whole coast is that way.. try Mazunte or Zipolite and tell me about it.. If you do not like tourists in Florida , see how much you will lke the European and Mexican touirsts down there.
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Deb- here's another reality for you- you indicate that you don't want to live in a busy city center, that you'd prefer to live on the outskirts. Yet you have said you don't want to have to have a vehicle. And you seem to think that most Mexicans don't have vehicles, which isn't true unless they live somewhere there is convenient public transportation. If you live on the "outskirts", you will likely need transportation, maybe a moto or an ATV if you don't want a car. I live on the outskirts of Sayulita- it's a 20 minute walk to town. No way I could do that lugging groceries, laundry, containers of drinking water, etc. It's not like there's a bus stop outside my house.
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are there moto taxis or colectivos there?

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are there moto taxis or colectivos there?
No, no moto taxis and no colectivos. The taxistas have the place sewn up. They won't allow Ubers here either. I saw 6 taxis surround and intimidate an Uber driver one day. And the taxis charge 100 pesos for the 5 minute drive from the centro to my house.


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