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It's been a while since I felt like a rant and I shouldn't think or print out loud but...

And I've been keeping this in for quite some time but the events that have unfolded over the last few weeks, actually several years of this, get me to thinking that once a visitor gets a look at the foreigner they just want nothing but money, they can't seem to fix anything, what they'd do for their citizens they can't do it for me or my wife even if it enriches them.

First example: I need to get rid of my old car it takes up space, I just want to get rid of it I don't want to dump anymore of my pension into it so we decided to drop the price from 20,000 pesos to 10,000 pesos it needs work but it can be fixed and the dang thing has brand new tires, new brakes, new starter, two replaced engine pulley's, two year old battery now dead from no use and this older guy comes around and said he'd give me 10,000 pesos so I said OKAY... that was my compromise and he would show up the next day with a battery and 10,000 pesos he checked my cars paperwork and said it wasn't in my name (he forgot his glasses) but I checked the next day and it sure was in my name the yellow paper he called it more like the title or owners copy, It should be in my name because I've registered it for 9 years anyway I was notified he'd come in the morning be ready, okay so I got the car ready, moved all sorts of furniture checked the tires, water the works, cleaned it off, he shows up the next day around 10 am with no battery and he said he's going to get a battery, he never showed up, the guy working the deal a very elderly man told me he needs 500 pesos later on that evening for his commission (I didn't commission him) but my wife still said we'll give him 500 pesos when the deal is done so this same old guy working for a commission came by again the following morning to offer me 7,000 pesos and we said NO we' already made it CRYSTAL CLEAR it was 10,000 I'm done I refuse to talk with anyone, this car will be collecting dust until somebody takes out 10,000 pesos and hands it to me.

Second example: We have two large trees next to our house that have dried up they grew so fast and so large, both trees are Narra trees, so one of the In-laws has a friend that will cut them down for free and take the wood, that's a good deal right? So the lumber jack interested in the wood shows up today and all of sudden he can't do it because he might destroy some other fruit trees (bull crap), well after he sees the foreigner more like it. I told my wife I'll cut them down MYSELF, she got pretty angry but oh well, I've cut down two large trees this year alone with a bolo knife and I gave away the wood, it took me a couple hrs each time but this time when I cut these trees down I'm going to BURN the wood I won't be giving it away anymore.

Old Example: One of the many reasons I stopped drinking, health but the main reason was boredom and the same old game over how I'm treated once I showed up to a party or dead happening funeral (tent in the road) the event is on me nobody dishes out, no food (snacks only given out), no booze and out of cigarettes, no money for the Karaoke who gets stuck forking it out, you guessed it the foreigner, this happened so many times I stopped dishing out and then oh... the dagger looks and envy, I'm done with all events.

Mundane and simple Services: Sticking air in my car tires, I ask how much they say it's up to you, what the hell does that mean? So I gave 100 pesos, my bike needed air and I ask how much, it's up to you so I give 20 pesos, I finally asked my neighbors and in-laws whats the cost to air up bike tires, trike tires or car tires the answer is they don't know... Okay so I had a billiard business for 3 years and I added an air compressor since my billiard table was next to the road, OMG was that a wake up call on prices because all of sudden my neighbors and citizens became Einstein on prices they handed me what turned out to be chicken sh*t for payment, 3 pesos for bike tires, 10 pesos to air up all three tires on a trike and 20 pesos to fill all four tires on a car.

I could do this all day long "Larry the Cable Guy" quote.

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It's been a while since I felt like a rant and I shouldn't think or print out loud but...

And I've been keeping this in for quite some time but the events that have unfolded over the last few weeks, actually several years of this, get me to thinking that once a visitor gets a look at the foreigner they just want nothing but money, they can't seem to fix anything, what they'd do for their citizens they can't do it for me or my wife even if it enriches them.

First example: I need to get rid of my old car it takes up space, I just want to get rid of it I don't want to dump anymore of my pension into it so we decided to drop the price from 20,000 pesos to 10,000 pesos it needs work but it can be fixed and the dang thing has brand new tires, new brakes, new starter, two replaced engine pulley's, two year old battery now dead from no use and this older guy comes around and said he'd give me 10,000 pesos so I said OKAY... that was my compromise and he would show up the next day with a battery and 10,000 pesos he checked my cars paperwork and said it wasn't in my name (he forgot his glasses) but I checked the next day and it sure was in my name the yellow paper he called it more like the title or owners copy, It should be in my name because I've registered it for 9 years anyway I was notified he'd come in the morning be ready, okay so I got the car ready, moved all sorts of furniture checked the tires, water the works, cleaned it off, he shows up the next day around 10 am with no battery and he said he's going to get a battery, he never showed up, the guy working the deal a very elderly man told me he needs 500 pesos later on that evening for his commission (I didn't commission him) but my wife still said we'll give him 500 pesos when the deal is done so this same old guy working for a commission came by again the following morning to offer me 7,000 pesos and we said NO we' already made it CRYSTAL CLEAR it was 10,000 I'm done I refuse to talk with anyone, this car will be collecting dust until somebody takes out 10,000 pesos and hands it to me.

Second example: We have two large trees next to our house that have dried up they grew so fast and so large, both trees are Narra trees, so one of the In-laws has a friend that will cut them down for free and take the wood, that's a good deal right? So the lumber jack interested in the wood shows up today and all of sudden he can't do it because he might destroy some other fruit trees (bull crap), well after he sees the foreigner more like it. I told my wife I'll cut them down MYSELF, she got pretty angry but oh well, I've cut down two large trees this year alone with a bolo knife and I gave away the wood, it took me a couple hrs each time but this time when I cut these trees down I'm going to BURN the wood I won't be giving it away anymore.

Old Example: One of the many reasons I stopped drinking, health but the main reason was boredom and the same old game over how I'm treated once I showed up to a party or dead happening funeral (tent in the road) the event is on me nobody dishes out, no food (snacks only given out), no booze and out of cigarettes, no money for the Karaoke who gets stuck forking it out, you guessed it the foreigner, this happened so many times I stopped dishing out and then oh... the dagger looks and envy, I'm done with all events.

Mundane and simple Services: Sticking air in my car tires, I ask how much they say it's up to you, what the hell does that mean? So I gave 100 pesos, my bike needed air and I ask how much, it's up to you so I give 20 pesos, I finally asked my neighbors and in-laws whats the cost to air up bike tires, trike tires or car tires the answer is they don't know... Okay so I had a billiard business for 3 years and I added an air compressor since my billiard table was next to the road, OMG was that a wake up call on prices because all of sudden my neighbors and citizens became Einstein on prices they handed me what turned out to be chicken sh*t for payment, 3 pesos for bike tires, 10 pesos to air up all three tires on a trike and 20 pesos to fill all four tires on a car.

I could do this all day long "Larry the Cable Guy" quote.
You know it Mark.....melisa keeps it away from me and I don't mingle,,,by the way mark,its not a rant its just fact


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It's been a while since I felt like a rant and I shouldn't think or print out loud but...

**We are all entitled to share views and thoughts Mark, both positive and negative things arise on forums. Sharing is caring?

And I've been keeping this in for quite some time but the events that have unfolded over the last few weeks, actually several years of this, get me to thinking that once a visitor gets a look at the foreigner they just want nothing but money, they can't seem to fix anything, what they'd do for their citizens they can't do it for me or my wife even if it enriches them.

**Good to let off steam and I am sure that I and others hear your frustrations. I learn't very early in the piece when working here the "rich westerner syndrome" and yes got burnt many times though not much money involved was the constant expectation of supplying food, drink and cigarettes, it does wear thin after a while.
My saving grace was Expat sites where I studied, contributed also but got the hang of how things work, lol and don't work here, experiences shared by other members made me wiser and enabled me to say NO or avoid/circumnavigate difficult situations. Even with my better half it took some doing but we have been on the same page now for years, he does most of the dirty/legwork, knows how to haggle and most importantly how to say "no" family included.

First example: I need to get rid of my old car it takes up space, I just want to get rid of it I don't want to dump anymore of my pension into it so we decided to drop the price from 20,000 pesos to 10,000 pesos it needs work but it can be fixed and the dang thing has brand new tires, new brakes, new starter, two replaced engine pulley's, two year old battery now dead from no use and this older guy comes around and said he'd give me 10,000 pesos so I said OKAY... that was my compromise and he would show up the next day with a battery and 10,000 pesos he checked my cars paperwork and said it wasn't in my name (he forgot his glasses) but I checked the next day and it sure was in my name the yellow paper he called it more like the title or owners copy, It should be in my name because I've registered it for 9 years anyway I was notified he'd come in the morning be ready, okay so I got the car ready, moved all sorts of furniture checked the tires, water the works, cleaned it off, he shows up the next day around 10 am with no battery and he said he's going to get a battery, he never showed up, the guy working the deal a very elderly man told me he needs 500 pesos later on that evening for his commission (I didn't commission him) but my wife still said we'll give him 500 pesos when the deal is done so this same old guy working for a commission came by again the following morning to offer me 7,000 pesos and we said NO we' already made it CRYSTAL CLEAR it was 10,000 I'm done I refuse to talk with anyone, this car will be collecting dust until somebody takes out 10,000 pesos and hands it to me.

**Perhaps similar to us trying to purchase a second hand car recently and the drama involved, reversed.
What is the scrap value? If it's a popular model have you considered wrecking and selling parts? You may or may not have the patience to go that way though.

Second example: We have two large trees next to our house that have dried up they grew so fast and so large, both trees are Narra trees, so one of the In-laws has a friend that will cut them down for free and take the wood, that's a good deal right? So the lumber jack interested in the wood shows up today and all of sudden he can't do it because he might destroy some other fruit trees (bull crap), well after he sees the foreigner more like it. I told my wife I'll cut them down MYSELF, she got pretty angry but oh well, I've cut down two large trees this year alone with a bolo knife and I gave away the wood, it took me a couple hrs each time but this time when I cut these trees down I'm going to BURN the wood I won't be giving it away anymore.

**Your "Lumber jack doesn't want to climb" With our recent, 2 days ago experience there was a very gifted Monkey both with climbing and an efficient use of a bolo. We have been through the tree removal saga several times now Mark and one scratches his head with the audacity of some people,,,,, hey all countries included here.
1/ Employed a local guy to clean up our very overgrown lot, 65 Y/O, lovely hard working local who not only cleared and cleaned the land also cut down a huge stand of bamboo, some 60 to 70 shoots up to 30ft high, hard job, Bengie helped, Bamboo neatly stacked, rubbish and offcuts burnt, Ben said to me that Edgar (the worker) offered to get rid of the bamboo at no charge,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, sell it I told him, look on eBay/FB to see what it's worth, recoup some costs,,,,,, turns out that selling it will return our funds for 2 weeks work for Edgar and then profit,,,,, no wonder he offered to remove it.
Another bigger contract, 8,000 pesos; wanted 9K but as always Ben haggled via our Barangay Captain. BTW the contractors never saw me I stayed out of it as advised by very astute members. 2 acacia trees, one almost 3ft in diameter the other 2ft diameter, a very large mango tree 18 inches in diameter. Everything cut by an older guy in his 60's two thirds my size (where did I go wrong?) wielding a 36 inch chainsaw and 4 labourers removing everything off our lot, truck comes this week to get rid of the BIG stuff that will go to use and the smaller branches taken by the locals for firewood after it's seasoned. The captain even pitched in for an hour or so, job complete in 8 hours, these guys never stopped, like ants and we supplied the beer at the day and only water throughout the day. Though 5 guys working for 1 day and several guy and a truck to remove the big stuff, probably 2 loads doesn't add up to 8K or does it? For us it was a bargain as those trees were huge.
So a positive from our perspective.

Old Example: One of the many reasons I stopped drinking, health but the main reason was boredom and the same old game over how I'm treated once I showed up to a party or dead happening funeral (tent in the road) the event is on me nobody dishes out, no food (snacks only given out), no booze and out of cigarettes, no money for the Karaoke who gets stuck forking it out, you guessed it the foreigner, this happened so many times I stopped dishing out and then oh... the dagger looks and envy, I'm done with all events.

**As said above, say no or as you and I have learn't steer clear. Last week we went to Ben's great nieces 3rd birthday party, a treasure of a child and love her,,, yes all the others dearly. There was of course the adult party as well, supplied by others as follows: Karaoke machine, a very entertaining clown, a rather gifted face painter all for the children not me, Huge amounts of food, fizzie and many smiling faces and a great time. Supplied by us: A very large birthday girl cake (for 50 plus people) 950 pesos and 8 san mig lights in an esky, 5 for Ben 3 for me as I was the designated driver,,,,,, lol what a turn around, normally it's him driving, plenty of gin, brandy, scotch and beers flowed and yes Ben partook but guess what? All supplied by others, lucky? I think not as I laid the law down 7 years ago telling Ben if he wants to travel and have the good life then needs to learn to say no as I do. There you go Mark, my little rant.

Mundane and simple Services: Sticking air in my car tires, I ask how much they say it's up to you, what the hell does that mean? So I gave 100 pesos, my bike needed air and I ask how much, it's up to you so I give 20 pesos, I finally asked my neighbors and in-laws whats the cost to air up bike tires, trike tires or car tires the answer is they don't know... Okay so I had a billiard business for 3 years and I added an air compressor since my billiard table was next to the road, OMG was that a wake up call on prices because all of sudden my neighbors and citizens became Einstein on prices they handed me what turned out to be chicken sh*t for payment, 3 pesos for bike tires, 10 pesos to air up all three tires on a trike and 20 pesos to fill all four tires on a car.

**Interesting you mention this, we go and fuel up, different servo's in the district, check and fill the tyres at least monthly (yes I or Ben performs the operation) no cost. Hey we're buying fuel, Mark, it's your compressor and gear, you call the tune and if the notes are high enough they will leave you alone. The new car tells us when the tyres need air,,,,,, yet to see it.

I could do this all day long "Larry the Cable Guy" quote.

**As we all could and do but there are so many things good here and with patience and some tolerance one overlooks the forest for the trees.
Heres a B*tch from me. In the front of our lot, titled, 1700M2 and tax declared 800M2 there is some 1000M2 of those nasty spiny trees from the house mixed amongst coconuts and other trees to the high tide mark, we want them removed, many that visit here both workers and friends all want the timber for charcoal, Uling but want us to cut it out and stack so they can have it, nary an offer of you give it to me I will remove,,,,,, maybe I am a tight a*se? Perhaps wiser.
Good to hear you let off some steam Mark, deep breath and deal with it all as we do. BTW, how much for your old car? Oh I just want the tyres and the cigarette lighter.

Cheers, Steve.


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Bigpearl the car could be a gold mine of parts it's a 1989 Mitsubishi Lancer but I feel it's worth more if kept all together and all I wanted was 10,000 pesos it's worth much more and from the looks of it the guy trying to buy the car keeps having someone come by several times a day to make offers even today they came by and we won't talk to them anymore even though the supposed buyer or I think his father who I talked with and after looking at the car accepted the 10,000 pesos and he said to me... "It's a closed deal right" and I briefly paused and then looked him straight in the eyes and said it's closed deal and this guy was real bossy from the beginning and then the next day he shows up with no battery no money and tail between his legs.

Me and my wife were talking about the whole chain of events and I mentioned where is this buyers integrity, his pride of honoring and he closed the deal, his good word? My wife got angry again and said that's Philippino, never trust anything they say, lol.

Oh so right on the tree, if I can't find someone who needs this wood, I'm going to cut it down myself I have a 30 foot ladder, I'm tired of us allowing people to manipulate us but it all comes down to not spending or wasting our money, I've had enough if I can'ts squeeze any money from a citizen then they aren't getting any money out of me.

My wife does have some really nice Philippine friends they live in the next city and I gave them a large bag of taro root (gabi) and the next time they were over they gave me 8 squashes from their garden and 3 large bags of mango, they help my wife with the yard when they visit by sweeping the side walk areas and we don't ask or I don't really need the help and it's not expected but it's really nice to see real friends or people that treat you as a friend it's no longer a one way relationship.
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Well Mark do what I did once, many years ago I as selling an older car, I always put in the add not negotiable every time as like you believe the price set is value for money, we are selling it and not giving it to charity. I too had a guy look many times at that car and eventually, cheekily made an offer some 2K less, in retaliation I told him the price was set take it or leave it and if he wanted to offer 2K less the price was now 2K more, a week later he came back and said he wanted it and would pay the asking price, 12K I said, no he said the price was 10K in the add,,,,,,,, I said to him mate you knew the non negotiable price and tried it on the new price is 12K. He did leave with tail between his legs and I upped the price in the ad accordingly, about 2 weeks later after a few calls he paid me 11K as we split the difference for his failure to conduct a transaction properly, I was in no hurry so no skin off my nose, had similar things transpired over the years and always came out in front. To date not so for our house in Oz, agent wants us to drop the price,,,,,,,,, mate you and 3 other agents set the price, all the same and now you want us to lower? No.

If you don't need the money stand on your haunches and don't listen to feeble lame excuses why they want it for less. They can try it on but at the end of the day it's your choice to accept or hold your ground.

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As soon as the guy has found a buyer at a suitable price he will be back quick enough with his 10k.

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As soon as the guy has found a buyer at a suitable price he will be back quick enough with his 10k.
An interesting thought came to mind Gary/readers. If this guy is a middle man (obviously) as he is asking for 500pesos commission from the OP, what is he asking from a potential buyer? What price is he telling that poor fool? More profit for him at the OP's expense.
As Rwestgate and I have suggested raise the price if he returns but definitely don't give him the joy of seeing you as "a wallet 24/7".
Go sick him Mark if he returns.

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I thought about that but then my wife would accuse me of being money hunger as she calls it because I want their attention Lol... that how my wife talks to me and it's true so I won't deal with these guys anymore.

But going back to the original deal, we had already haggled about this car before many months ago and out of the blue these guys come back because somehow they got wind (guy working commission) of us letting the car go for 10,000 pesos so the buyer's father comes by all bossy and banging on our gate, even though I said wait... and I'll be down, it was early in the morning and as I'm opening the front door he's still banging on our gate just 20 feet away acting like he's in charge looking at the car the paper work and then he says so you want 10,000 pesos and I paused because I wasn't aware he knew the new price but said okay and then he said I'll come by tomorrow morning with the battery, mine needs charging it's only two years old, the car has been sitting a long time and I have the paper work on it anyway continuing on and he'll bring the 10,000 pesos... he then says"Its a closed deal right" those were his exact words, I was amazed he spoke English perfectly the entire time and then I looked at him and said Okay done deal but what actually happened the next day was he left me hanging all day long, thats when the other old timer who was working the commission hung out off and on also at our house waiting for the deal to happen it didn't, so I fed him Tacos... Lol and also agreed to his 500 peso commission.

"Off Topic" Almost ready to make this thread a B*tch session or I'll open another thread if need be. Here goes yesterday we decided to get away and head to the mall I bought a new pair of walking shoes wow... nice pair I thought they were New Balance I wasn't paying attention though and when I got home the name was actually World Balance "Bounce Pad" the lettering in the store none above the shoes and this brand was stuck in with Nike, Adidas ect.. and the shoe boxes are dark the pattern on the shoe is hard to distinguish so I thought it was New Balance but... they not only are quality shoes made in China under 2000 pesos, they are really comfortable and I walked out with them, paid with my ATM card and then proceed to the Hardware store (typhoon season readiness) to get some new heavy duty rechargeable lights, the lady runs my ATM card carelessly and shoving it, I tried to warn her the card is stuck but she only shoves it in harder and she tore the magnetic strip in half, the card is destroyed, so I paid in cash.
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For the shoes Mark as long as they are comfortable and have some longevity in them, enjoy. As for your Debit/credit card, I would have been asking for the manager and seeking compensation, though you probably won't get any where going that path, doubt discount on your purchase but the joy of the chase! Rattle your sabre! That clerk will take a lot more care next time but poor you has to replace the card and that takes time no matter the country.

While I'm not sure where you live Mark, I lived in the back blocks in Oz, low population. We sold tons of stuff prior to moving here, yes advertised at a good price to get rid of it, mostly on FB (hate it) but Bens suggestion and he ran with it and fielded the calls, as said not negotiable and the phone never stopped, for 3 or 4 days. We did sell everything at our asked prices though we did have those that wanted to haggle, did pay the price because it was a good deal and I wasn't going to budge, many purchased other stuff that we never had listed for sale but they wanted,,,,,,,, the operative word.
How have you listed your car for sale Mark? If not on FB market, that's where you should go and up the price to 15, 20 or more. As you well know plenty of business here is conducted/secured on FB.

Turn it over at the price you think is realistic and not what some w*nker tells you or offers if you don't need the money.

Cheers, Steve.
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