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Hi Jack,

First of all, it's a huge milestone in your life, I'm proud of you! Congratulations.

Jack, when you mentioned that there are lots of jobs out there that have unrealistic requirements, have you applied at least to one of them? If so, did you ever get an interview at least?

I mean, most of the time I feel like most jobs have such unrealistic requirements too, and I gotta admit it sometimes depress me when I see such vacancies, it's just unreal.

One more time, thanks again! Now you're free to enjoy your life in down under

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Waah Captain Jacksparrow. Congrats on the job offer. Time to open Rum bottles
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Hi Jack,

First of all, it's a huge milestone in your life, I'm proud of you! Congratulations.

Jack, when you mentioned that there are lots of jobs out there that have unrealistic requirements, have you applied at least to one of them? If so, did you ever get an interview at least?

I mean, most of the time I feel like most jobs have such unrealistic requirements too, and I gotta admit it sometimes depress me when I see such vacancies, it's just unreal.

One more time, thanks again! Now you're free to enjoy your life in down under
Initially I didn't apply to them thinking they are not really meant to be filled. But later on, I came to know that what they really represent is not just a single position, but multiple positions combined as one. So basically there would be a position for say Java dev, Windows admin and middleware dev. But the ad would contain skillset for all three of these technologies and people like me misunderstood them as a single position requiring all three skills.

So, I would suggest that you apply to these jobs if you match 70-80% of the skills. You never know when the right opportunity strikes you.
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Initially I didn't apply to them thinking they are not really meant to be filled. But later on, I came to know that what they really represent is not just a single position, but multiple positions combined as one. So basically there would be a position for say Java dev, Windows admin and middleware dev. But the ad would contain skillset for all three of these technologies and people like me misunderstood them as a single position requiring all three skills.

So, I would suggest that you apply to these jobs if you match 70-80% of the skills. You never know when the right opportunity strikes you.
Dear Bro..
Thanks for sharing very useful information..
I'm Manu from Bangalore and after reading your post I got confidence on getting jobs.
I got 489 SS Visa from Southern Inland ( NSW ) I must stay in regional area for 2 years. Now my question is how is opportunities in NSW regional area for Mechanical back ground.
I'm planning to relocate on January 2016. Please suggest me before to land there what and all precautions I have to take and what I to do to get the job at the earliest. Please suggest me..
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Dear Bro..
Thanks for sharing very useful information..
I'm Manu from Bangalore and after reading your post I got confidence on getting jobs.
I got 489 SS Visa from Southern Inland ( NSW ) I must stay in regional area for 2 years. Now my question is how is opportunities in NSW regional area for Mechanical back ground.
I'm planning to relocate on January 2016. Please suggest me before to land there what and all precautions I have to take and what I to do to get the job at the earliest. Please suggest me..
Frankly, I won't be the right person to answer these question since I have neither lived in NSW or am from Mech background. But discussions on this forum and careful study of jobs advertised on Seek should help you get the picture. Financial and psychological planning is a key. Be prepared to withstand few months of loneliness, struggle and hardships, both financially and emotionally. I know regional visa holders can face even bigger struggle than normal PR holders since they can not move out of designated region. So be prepared to take any job initially to survive those 2 years.

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Frankly, I won't be the right person to answer these question since I have neither lived in NSW or am from Mech background. But discussions on this forum and careful study of jobs advertised on Seek should help you get the picture. Financial and psychological planning is a key. Be prepared to withstand few months of loneliness, struggle and hardships, both financially and emotionally. I know regional visa holders can face even bigger struggle than normal PR holders since they can not move out of designated region. So be prepared to take any job initially to survive those 2 years.

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Well done Jack, one for securing job there , and two for sharing with us.

I feel that ( please note I don't mean to give any -ve comments for anyone here) , while a good population of IT guys specially from Asia have the requisite skills and education to obtain a PR, but a good %age of them lack the real skills required to secure job in AU. And obviously a lot of them are struggling getting job, and sharing their adverse experience. This makes all of us nervous and anxious. So the feedback from people like Jack are invaluable to this forum.

An example of what I state above is when I look ant my current team of 25 IT associates in India . 17-18 of them will secure a PR for them if they try . But I think only 4-5 are good enough securing a job bcoz only these 4-5 have effective communication and interpersonal skills that I think are needed in AU market.

This may be one of the reasons of several -ve feedbacks around job hunt on this forum.

Current Indian IT market fails to differentiate between high quality and not so high quality software engineers. Seems anyone is able to get a job. But this is not applicable to AU seems as jobs are not in as much abundance as in india.
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Well done Jack, one for securing job there , and two for sharing with us.

I feel that ( please note I don't mean to give any -ve comments for anyone here) , while a good population of IT guys specially from Asia have the requisite skills and education to obtain a PR, but a good %age of them lack the real skills required to secure job in AU. And obviously a lot of them are struggling getting job, and sharing their adverse experience. This makes all of us nervous and anxious. So the feedback from people like Jack are invaluable to this forum.

An example of what I state above is when I look ant my current team of 25 IT associates in India . 17-18 of them will secure a PR for them if they try . But I think only 4-5 are good enough securing a job bcoz only these 4-5 have effective communication and interpersonal skills that I think are needed in AU market.

This may be one of the reasons of several -ve feedbacks around job hunt on this forum.

Current Indian IT market fails to differentiate between high quality and not so high quality software engineers. Seems anyone is able to get a job. But this is not applicable to AU seems as jobs are not in as much abundance as in india.
I agree with you farepark. As I am giving interviews I do see that. AUS mainly target on interpersonal and communication skills. They mainly target on how you put your achievements and what you accomplished in your last role. And more over your hands on in the job you are doing something like use case scenario.

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Well done Jack, one for securing job there , and two for sharing with us.

I feel that ( please note I don't mean to give any -ve comments for anyone here) , while a good population of IT guys specially from Asia have the requisite skills and education to obtain a PR, but a good %age of them lack the real skills required to secure job in AU. And obviously a lot of them are struggling getting job, and sharing their adverse experience. This makes all of us nervous and anxious. So the feedback from people like Jack are invaluable to this forum.

An example of what I state above is when I look ant my current team of 25 IT associates in India . 17-18 of them will secure a PR for them if they try . But I think only 4-5 are good enough securing a job bcoz only these 4-5 have effective communication and interpersonal skills that I think are needed in AU market.

This may be one of the reasons of several -ve feedbacks around job hunt on this forum.

Current Indian IT market fails to differentiate between high quality and not so high quality software engineers. Seems anyone is able to get a job. But this is not applicable to AU seems as jobs are not in as much abundance as in india.
From my experience, I see Indian IT guys struggling due to:

1. Lack of Perseverance - Because of ease of getting a job in IT in India, people have unreasonably high expectations of getting one in fairly short amount of time here too. That is obviously not the case. In a way, coming to OZ is more like "ego-burst" for many people. These people quickly run out of their steam and don't give enough time to crack the first job. As I said earlier, OZ job market is very sluggish and if you don't have enough patience, you probably can't sustain the job-hunt.

2. Interview Style - Many people get stumped at this. In case of India, IT interviews are more or less focused on knowing specifics about language or platform. On the contrary, interviews in OZ are focused more on your problem-solving attitude, approach and communication skills. You will never be asked specific syntax, instead you will be given a problem and asked to design a solution to solve it in best possible manner. Indian IT guys are not very skilled at tackling these kinds of interviews. Behavioural aspects of the interview also can be very intimidating, especially if you are not prepared. Since these interviews requires knowledge and experience, you can not prepare them with "Top 50 .net interview questions" link from Google.

3. Lack of resume writing skills - This basic skill is often the most overlooked one. Many people decorate their resume with unwanted borders and colors, where all it requires is right amount of spacing, consistent fonts and simple structure. Keep resume formatting as minimal as possible. It looks much more professional than a resume looking more like a movie poster. Many people think customizing resume with skills mentioned in the job is good enough. Frankly, I never customized my resume but I ensured that my skills were highlighted enough and I apply only to those positions which required 80% of my skills. Customizing resume looks silly to me as recruiters keep close track of your resume and they will instantly notice that you just added keywords to match job description. Instead match job to your skills.
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First Week
I landed in Melbourne on 28th June as I thought it would be optimal time to come just before job market opens. Before coming to Australia, I worked a lot on my LinkedIn profile, getting recommendations and endorsements, getting technical and project management certifications, creating Australian CV and cover letters etc. My first week was spent on getting accustomed to the Austalian timezone, opening bank account, finding house, getting myself registered on Medicare and so on.

Congratulations Jack and thanks for this post. Its highly motivating

I am also S/w developer(261313) and I am planning to move to Melbourne in Jan2016. I updated my resume and linked in profile etc etc. But after reading your comment about resume in Australian format and cover letter, I am a bit confused what exactly is Australian style resume and cover letter. Can you please share any link having information about Australian style resume and cover letter.

Also, in India we never used to prepare cover letter. Just upload you resume on job portals and you are flooded with interview calls.

How important is the cover letter? Also please share your approach on preparing the cover letter.

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