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No doubt you all know that today is the International Day for Women's Rights.

I am wondering if any of you have seen the images/videos of the Police reaction to demonstrators in Paris and what you think of it.

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The violence occurred during a demonstration last night.

Interestingly it followed a report by Mediapart.

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I did. I've also seen the French police reaction to strikers, GJs, assorted anarchic and alternative types.

I wouldn't say their reaction is indicative of misogyny as much as of a general authoritarianism. YMMV.
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I did. I've also seen the French police reaction to strikers, GJs, assorted anarchic and alternative types.

I wouldn't say their reaction is indicative of misogyny as much as of a general authoritarianism. YMMV.
Oh, I don't think it is indicative of misogyny either, it is just yet another inappropriate (and according to the Mediapart report, which contains documented evidence and pre-dates this particular incident, senior police and CRS have made formal complaints that these and other actions which they have been ordered to undertake since the appointment of Didier Lallement as Préfet de Police de Paris is illegal and the complaints reference a range of articles of law under which they are illegal. Their complaints have been ignored.

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Oh, I don't think it is indicative of misogyny either, it is just yet another inappropriate (and according to the Mediapart report, which contains documented evidence and pre-dates this particular incident, senior police and CRS have made formal complaints that these and other actions which they have been ordered to undertake since the appointment of Didier Lallement as Préfet de Police de Paris is illegal and the complaints reference a range of articles of law under which they are illegal. Their complaints have been ignored.
Perhaps they should write to Madame la President.

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I consider that France is going through one of its darkest periods regarding police violence as condoned by the trio Lallement, Nunez, Castaner.

The article from Médiapart was rediffused by mainstream France Info media the very next day (and is still N°1 in their "most-shared" list) - as was coverage of Saturday's agressions on women arriving at Place de la République. Anne Hidalgo, M. Schiappa and A. Buzyn all rightly condamned these unwarranted acts of violence, forcing Castaner to call for "investigations".

The abusive police methods which were formerly limited to the "banlieux" are now widely used against all types of protesters. The objectif seems to be to create a climate of fear to dissuade people from protesting but also has a boomerang effect discrediting the very function of the French police in public opinion.

Let's not forget that there are many gendarmes, CRS and police who do their job correctly. The vast majority of cases of violence or abuse stem from members of the BAC or BRAV forces who have not been trained to deal with social unrest situations.

Someone's going to ask me for references to prove that point - I heard that from Alexandre Langlois, head of the police trade union Vigi Police in a conference he gave in Lyon, also in his book "Ennemi de l'Intérieur"

Schiappa: https://www.francetvinfo.fr/faits-di...a_3857643.html

Lallement: https://www.francetvinfo.fr/economie...t_3857601.html
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And yet more violence of the same strain today in Paris.
CS gas is totally counter-indicated when SARS style respiratory virus circulate.
The flics are killing themselves with it.

https://www.huffingtonpost.fr/entry/...ef=fr-homepage
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And yet more violence of the same strain today in Paris.
CS gas is totally counter-indicated when SARS style respiratory virus circulate.
The flics are killing themselves with it.

https://www.huffingtonpost.fr/entry/...ef=fr-homepage
You would think that right now they have better things to do

The problem is that Covid-19 is providing a major distraction, not just in terms of police violence, but pretty much everything.

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I don't know who can see this (the only publication I currently subscribe to given increasingly dire financial circumstances not related to France but Australia),

https://www.mediapart.fr/journal/france/140320/abstention-la-crise-sanitaire-renforce-la-crise-democratique?utm_source=20200314&utm_medium=email& utm_campaign=QUOTIDIENNE&utm_content=&utm_term=&xt or=EREC-83-[QUOTIDIENNE]-20200314&M_BT=1184476739658


This is why, despite my health issues, I am determined to vote tomorrow.

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