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Old 28th January 2020, 03:42 PM
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Would you invest in France ?

Lifestyle change, setting up a business, investment opportunities..

That is the question of the day

What does France have do offer ?

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Good question, dear Smeggie.

The simple answer is "no".

I'm a UK investor with a mainly investment trust portfolio. These investment trusts offer a wide variety of of geographical and industry type options. I'm invested in some aspect of the US, Japan smaller companies, and world wide tech and health care. I've recently increased my exposure to small UK companies. France figures at about 1% in my geographical analysis.

If Macron can bring about the big change that he's after then France might become very attractive from an investment aspect...good university / ESc etc education system, skilled workers who are v productive due to the 35 hours constraint. But Macron might fail?

...and where do you find the inspiration for your challenging threads, Smeggie?

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Would you invest in France ?
Already have. Any sensible person would.

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Do you actually invest in France, or in the Euro?

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I'm with Peasant here. I think those of us who are living here ARE investing in France to one degree or another. Maybe not with stocks and bonds, but with our sweat, toil and taxes.

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Back again to the old questions of "why are you here in France?" or "why do you want to move to France?" The answers are going to be different for each individual.

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Interesting, Bev, how we read the original post differently.

I took the question in the narrow financial sense. You took it in the "living" sense.

As we have discussed here many times you do really have to invest blood, sweat and taxes to be happy here.

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I'm with Peasant here. I think those of us who are living here ARE investing in France to one degree or another. Maybe not with stocks and bonds, but with our sweat, toil and taxes.


Back again to the old questions of "why are you here in France?" or "why do you want to move to France?" The answers are going to be different for each individual.

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The only significant investment I have is my Australian superannuation, which is invested ina socially and environmentally friendly portfolio of shares in Australia. Returns have been particularly good over the last 10 years and have beaten all the other portfolio streams, be they local or international, my fund offers.

If I had the money and could find something similar (a socially and envioronmentally friendly portfolio) in France, then I would invest.

Investment in CAC 40 companies would seem to be a reasonable bet and they pay very good dividends (France is the European champion when it comes to dividends), but by and large the companies are not at all to my liking, eg. Total is one of the world's top polluters.

But it's past midnight so the debate is over Smeg!

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January 28 2019 to now:

CAC up 20.24%
S&P 500 up 24.10%
Dow Jones Industrials up 16.85%.

So I guess France is not too bad for those who invest in its listed companies.
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Yes, Keri, quite correct. But if you look at the constituents of the Cac40 quite a few have large overseas revenues. So, rather like the ftse 100 the cac 40 is a play on international trade, not France internals.

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January 28 2019 to now:

CAC up 20.24%
S&P 500 up 24.10%
Dow Jones Industrials up 16.85%.

So I guess France is not too bad for those who invest in its listed companies.

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Also, how many people who actually live here (i.e. not retired here, but here to work or study) have assurance vie or PEAs or other "typical" French investment vehicles? More and more of those are offering various sorts of "responsible" funds that invest in companies with "durable development" or similar types of products, policies and plans. The specific investments may be international, or EU oriented.

There are lots of different ways to "invest."
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