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Old 17th January 2020, 05:39 PM
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We are not talking here about a statistical analysis in which people are asked a set of questions. This is 100 interviews. Big difference.
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And... In reality... Given these strictures... Almost all news reporting is "anecdotal".
I was responding to three earlier comments about statistical sampling and not the Guardian article in general. However, the, somewhat indirect, point of my comment was what you stated.

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Am I reading a different article?

There are no interviews done by the Guardian. The article is just the Guardians view on the website

https://brexitbritsabroad.org/brexit-testimonies.html

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The actual sample size necessary to get a reasonable estimate of a large population is a random sampling of around 1000. Anything much less than that is only anecdotal.

However, it is becoming increasingly hard to get a true random sample. This is largely due to people's location identifiers (phone numbers and email addresses) becoming increasingly non-geographic. This was made obvious in the US 2016 elections in which the only pollsters that got it right had skewed their results to begin with. Just think how difficult it would be to find 1000 british expats in France, at random, who would respond to a survey.

But, as to the article in question. That was not a statistical study, it was good reporting. They went and interviewed a number of people to get, what they hope, is the pulse of a population. It is possible they were selective in whom they chose to interview and which interviews they chose to cite and publish. But, so far, I haven't heard anyone making those accusations, and personally, I don'r think that happened to any significant extent.
Firstly, I never suggested that it was a statistical study.

Secondly, whilst I agree with the difficulties with sampling, your figure of 1000 might be acceptable in the US (and I assume they use and publish a + or - degree of accuracy), but it remains arguable (unless you provide the means of gathering the sample).

Thirdly, there are legal issues in France around asking someone's nationality.

So of course it is anecdotal.

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Am I reading a different article?

There are no interviews done by the Guardian. The article is just the Guardians view on the website

https://brexitbritsabroad.org/brexit-testimonies.html
Well, that is the link provided within the article which, as you say, is the Guardian's view on it and they have mentioned some of the testimonies as examples (which I for one consider they are entitled to do, given they provide the link to the source). It was rynd2it in the second post on the thread who criticised the article.

All that aside, this article (also from the Guardian) tends to support the argument that there are issues and lack of clarity for EU citizens with regard to Brexit and that https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ofstadt-brexit

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I shall have to wait and see.

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Of course Brexit will have different effects on different people From my point of view I hope it gives the French authorities the impetus to get rid the Brit expat chancers who try and rip ordinary people off by claiming to be plumbers sparkys etc or those who insist on driving round in UK reg vehicles all the time with dodgy uk insurance etc
Oh and I see on other forums the rumour of UK expats not being able to join the French health system and having to have private insurance is up and running again either because it enlivens a dead forum or because people really do not understand how it works
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