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Old 10th November 2019, 10:58 AM
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The 2007 Fallbrook Fire: A Fire In A Suburban Rural Landscape

I had to evacuate away from this one in 2007, it came within 500 yards of our house. Very scary stuff.
I know what you mean. When I was about 7 we lived high up in Collaroy with bush barely metres away on 2 sides. I remember well an occasion where we had to evacuate down to the beach and had only minutes to do so. Amazingly, our house and those of our neighbours were scorched but spared. We also were once virtually trapped while driving through bushland in the same general area - it was really scary because there were few alternative routes and every time we turned we came across firemen telling us to get back and get out, but even they couldn't tell us where to head for.

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I know what you mean. When I was about 7 we lived high up in Collaroy with bush barely metres away on 2 sides. I remember well an occasion where we had to evacuate down to the beach and had only minutes to do so. Amazingly, our house and those of our neighbours were scorched but spared. We also were once virtually trapped while driving through bushland in the same general area - it was really scary because there were few alternative routes and every time we turned we came across firemen telling us to get back and get out, but even they couldn't tell us where to head for.
And in both places there's tons of Eucalyptus trees - basically standing firewood, always shedding and filled with flammable resin.

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In the Pyrenees, many 'paysans' carry out écobuage which is burning away stubble and grass to clear their land and make it more fertile. This is forbidden but is often still goes on.

These fires often get out of hand and we had first hand experience of this many years ago, when we lived in an appartment which backed on to the mountains.

The local firemen fought all night to save the houses and appartments in the valley. The fir trees burst into flames with a terrific wooshing sound and chunks of burning trees rolled down the mountain to start new fires, getting nearer and nearer to the buildings.

Luckily the fire was eventually put out just metres away but it was a terrifying experience.

Nothing to do with climate change I agree but as the subject has turned to fires I thought I would chip in....

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Firemen told me that only 10% of fires in France are due to natural phenomena (lightning). All the rest are due to human activity; accident, negligence or deliberate.

I was happy to recieve a message via the "I am alive" survival app from my niece in the NSW bushfire zone.

Does anyone know of a climate denier with no vested interest?

As far as I'm concerned, we've passed the tipping point and we're off into uncharted territory.

Has anyone heard about collapsology or collapsosophy?
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A note of caution! Changes in climate are measured over years, or more accurately decades. A period of "unusual" weather in the short term tells you nothing about the long term. Anyone who has looked at 100+ points on a scatter diagram will agree. It is very usual to have unusual weather and has always been so. In fact there is a lot of weather about at the moment.

I'm not denying climate change, not at all, I'm very worried as are many people here. But you have to be on a sure statistical base....and that is very complex. Which gives climate change denyers (deniers?) an opportunity to refute the statistics.

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The fact that we're made aware of the scope and frequency of unusal global weather phenomena through intense media coverage makes it a source of worry for many people - on top of all their daily, more down to earth problems.

Aside from the fact that weather is flying at us thicker and faster, we do have a problem with the polar caps melting. Al Gore pointed out in his film "Inconvenient Truth" 10 years ago that the Gulf Stream could close down - forever.
Permafrost is thawing out and liberating huge methane bubbles which are vicious little ******s for the greenhouse effect.

Iran has announced discovery of huge, new crude oil reserves.
Norway too, but the Norvegians have chosen not to exploit them.
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Firemen told me that only 10% of fires in France are due to natural phenomena (lightning). All the rest are due to human activity; accident, negligence or deliberate.

I was happy to recieve a message via the "I am alive" survival app from my niece in the NSW bushfire zone.

Does anyone know of a climate denier with no vested interest?

As far as I'm concerned, we've passed the tipping point and we're off into uncharted territory.

Has anyone heard about collapsology or collapsosophy?
That is good news. Unfortunately https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-...es_articlelink

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I thought I would come back to this thread with some further info, though I could and perhaps should have added much more in the meantime. Now i know that the fires in Australia have made international headlines lately, so you all know there is an issue, albeit you also would not have seen the worst of it, which has not hit the international news.

However here I am getting back to global warming, and I'm going to give you some information re global warming in Australia and trends since 1970 (you will note that 2019 has NOT been the hottest year - that was 2013 and I experienced it before I left permanently in September - perhaps I should let you know that 2019 was not the biggest or longest drought, which also occurred before I left), plus predictions on current evidence all the way out to 2070. I would expect, or rather hope, that my grandchildren in Australia would still be alive at that time.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-...4Wy-S7-eQ7LY_4

Some of you may well have access to other information from countries where you have lived, or currently live, or even the EU, and I would appreciate it if you would share it.

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