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Old 1st June 2019, 01:25 PM
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In the face of all this, how you can claim that an organisation that did not exist in 1975 is the same as the one that did exist is utterly beyond me. It defies logic, reason and common sense.

The fact remains, UK accepted the EEC which was not a political organisation but rejected the EU when it became one. Please just get over it.
The EEC evolved into the EU and the UK signed the Maastricht Treaty and there as no Referendum to ratify that. All organisations change over the years.

Still it looks as if you ill get your Brexit by 31 Oct 2019 especially if Boris or Dominic Raab become the PM. Good Luck with that. The EU will continue without the UK and indeed may be able to enact some policies that Britain would have vetoed.
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Me too, they can't have it both ways.
I don't want it both ways, I believe the UK is better off without the EU. This is a decision based on what I believe is best for the UK, if it makes my personal plans more difficult then so be it. I can separate the two which, it appears, many others cannot.

If I wish to live in any other country then I happy to apply for residency there in a normal manner. Just as I did in 1991 when I obtained my USA green card and subsequent citizenship. I believe that all immigration regardless of source or destination should be based on merit and not some happenstance that the country you currently live in has an arrangement to allow preferential treatment to where you want to go.

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I don't want it both ways, I believe the UK is better off without the EU. This is a decision based on what I believe is best for the UK, if it makes my personal plans more difficult then so be it. I can separate the two which, it appears, many others cannot.

If I wish to live in any other country then I happy to apply for residency there in a normal manner. Just as I did in 1991 when I obtained my USA green card and subsequent citizenship. I believe that all immigration regardless of source or destination should be based on merit and not some happenstance that the country you currently live in has an arrangement to allow preferential treatment to where you want to go.
I feel that the EU will be better off without the UK. It may have some financial disadvantages to begin with but ultimately the European Project, in which the UK was never a keen believer, will proceed freed from any UK veto.

I do hope the Yanks are helpful to a Brexited Britain so be nice to President Trump in his visit to the UK.

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I don't want it both ways, I believe the UK is better off without the EU.
I am fed up with stupid old fat people (especially holding pints of beer) telling the young what they think and believe. Just retire and keep your thoughts to yourself. It would be fairer on the young.

I am thinking of Farage here of course Or maybe not.

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This is a decision based on what I believe is best for the UK, if it makes my personal plans more difficult then so be it. I
Let's hope so. Well it will do. Ha ha.

Why not stay in America ?

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If I wish to live in any other country then I happy to apply for residency there in a normal manner. Just as I did in 1991 when I obtained my USA green card and subsequent citizenship. I believe that all immigration regardless of source or destination should be based on merit and not some happenstance that the country you currently live in has an arrangement to allow preferential treatment to where you want to go.
And here I thought you were trying to show solidarity with those of us who have come to live in France from non-EU countries. Honestly, the process isn't all that onerous. (Certainly less so than for immigrating to the US - certainly cheaper, anyhow.)

My problem was that I arrived in France back before the days of the Internet and Web and when each consulate seemed to have their own interpretation of the immigration rules (which may or may not have coincided with the local prefectures once you got to where you were going in France).

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Steve, you cannot actually assume that you will be able to vote in the municipal elections whatever sort of Brexit occurs, and not in the long term without an agreement. Just another reason to improve your French so that you can apply for French citizenship (which would also give you greater voting rights). A hard Brexit potentially becomes a tit-for-tat depending on what the UK does going forward. I say this because I am aware of your real interest in politics.

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Steve, you cannot actually assume that you will be able to vote in the municipal elections whatever sort of Brexit occurs, and not in the long term without an agreement. Just another reason to improve your French so that you can apply for French citizenship (which would also give you greater voting rights). A hard Brexit potentially becomes a tit-for-tat depending on what the UK does going forward. I say this because I am aware of your real interest in politics.
Yes i assume i will lose voting rights in such an event.

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And here I thought you were trying to show solidarity with those of us who have come to live in France from non-EU countries. Honestly, the process isn't all that onerous. (Certainly less so than for immigrating to the US - certainly cheaper, anyhow.)
I was Bev, I think there should be same rules for all regardless of origin. And you are right, US immigration is tough but at least the rules are consistent ;-)

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I was Bev, I think there should be same rules for all regardless of origin. And you are right, US immigration is tough but at least the rules are consistent ;-)
Consistent, perhaps - unless you are someone of certain origins trying to immigrate to the US. There are quite a few cases of Americans married to foreigners from "certain countries" who are unable to get spouse visas for their spouses, and also unable to get a waiver from the restrictions on specific countries.

At least for France, the only way they can reject the spouse of a French citizen for a spouse visa is if the foreign spouse is deemed to present a threat to the public order, or some such thing.
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