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Old 15th April 2019, 08:13 PM
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There was an interesting segment on the news just this weekend about the renovation work they had been doing - up in the rafters of the church. Impressive pictures of the huge, old wooden beams that supported the roof. And they discussed restoring the old lead soldering that was part of how the roof section was constructed.

One can only imagine how quickly old, very dry wood like that would go up in flames. And last I heard there were concerns that the flames had reached the bell tower, where the bells (or at least some of them) had only just been restored a few years back.

So far, at least, they seem to think that no one has been killed in this fire, which may be something of a miracle in and of itself.
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Remarkable work by the firefighters.
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Very, very sad.

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I’m having a hard time taking it all in - feels like a direct punch to the gut that’s knocked the wind right out of me. So horrifying and devastatingly sad.
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One interesting quote from one of the papers this morning was from a visiting fire official from the US. He commented that "monuments" like this are usually fire traps, and that if it hadn't been a church, it would have been condemned a long time ago.

I wonder if we haven't maybe arrived at a point where, with all the "restoration work" involved in these sorts of historic sites, some consideration has to start being made about modern day fire and safety provisions. With 30,000 visitors a day, any restoration work should really include safety features like (dare I say it), a sprinkler system or some other form of fire extinguishing system, even if it's a distinctly "modern" enhancement.

Having visited the "combles" of a couple of the old chateaux in the area, I can only imagine how quickly 700 and 800 year old wooden beams can catch fire and go up in flames the way they did.

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Agree Bev. A few years ago I was involved with plans to deconscrate an unused church and move the tourist office into what was a very beautiful, if modest old building.

We decided against deconsecration because that meant we would have to intall fire alarms, disabled ramps, proper lighting etc. I'm not against these things but they come at a real cash cost.

I suppose that sooner or later questions will have be asked at NDC how the fire could have started and how it could progress without early detection....in the meantime we all home for the best.

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One interesting quote from one of the papers this morning was from a visiting fire official from the US. He commented that "monuments" like this are usually fire traps, and that if it hadn't been a church, it would have been condemned a long time ago.

I wonder if we haven't maybe arrived at a point where, with all the "restoration work" involved in these sorts of historic sites, some consideration has to start being made about modern day fire and safety provisions. With 30,000 visitors a day, any restoration work should really include safety features like (dare I say it), a sprinkler system or some other form of fire extinguishing system, even if it's a distinctly "modern" enhancement.

Having visited the "combles" of a couple of the old chateaux in the area, I can only imagine how quickly 700 and 800 year old wooden beams can catch fire and go up in flames the way they did.

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Interesting article in France Info today. https://www.francetvinfo.fr/culture/...e_3400595.html
The upshot of the article is that architects and art historians are complaining that restoration work on historic buildings is not subject to effective fire and safety standards, and that in any event, the State has not been properly maintaining its patrimoine for many, many years.

It's not a uniquely French problem, though the issue manifests itself a little differently in other countries. (In the US, for example, it's the roadways, bridges, tunnels and rail system that is becoming dangerous thanks to lack of "routine" maintenance.)

It's a miracle that only one person was hurt in this fire. (And I understand the fire fighter who was hurt is in serious condition.) I only hope this horrible accident can be used as a learning experience to start to bring Notre Dame and other historic monuments and churches up to some level of safety standards.

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