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I think we may see some household names disappear as companies fail.

We sadly kind of expect small businesses to fail as we believe them to be vulnerable, and to a large extent, that's partly true, but some of the bigger companies will go under also because their cost base is too big and extended to react to sudden change. Maybe most affected will be the ones related to events, promotions, sport and travel and other things which will not pick up until long after confinement ends.

If Thomas Cook hadn't already gone, this would surely have been the final nail for them, just like Flybe. There will be more like those I fear.
Got to feel sorry for Hays Travel. I was in Sainsbury's the other day and their Hays counter was looking very lonely. Can't think of a worse time to take on a travel company.
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I did see a report earlier in the week which said that due to the collapse in AirBnB bookings, apartments which were previously rented to tourists were now being advertised for long term rentals, which could be beneficial I suppose to those who found themselves priced out of the rental market in the areas they wanted to live in, or in areas where long term rentals had just become very hard to find - providing people still have jobs in order to pay the rent, that is.

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It will be interesting also to see how the UK fits in to this. Will it be Europe that works together, or the EU? This could really turn the tables for the UK and show weaknesses in Brexit

Sánchez has already spoken about the hope for leaders to come up with a collaboration package like a kind of Plan Marshall introduced by the States after WWII.
Article in Spanish

https://www.eleconomista.es/economia...-historia.html
Article in English

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/...0405-0004.html
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan


BTW there is a classic Spanish film called "Bienvenido Mr Marshall" about an Andalusian village that goes crazy planning the visit of the American Marshall Plan Committee. It was actually filmed in a town in the Madrid Sierra
Also the central plot of The Mouse that Roared where the miniscule Duchy of Grand Fenwick declares war
on the United States, in the hope that they will be soundly defeated before taking advantage of the United
States benevolence to its defeated enemies by sending money and aid to the Duchy to rebuild its economy.

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Maybe we should be looking at growth industries?
  • Online anything. It was already a growth industry, but now?
  • If we are "allowed out" for the summer I think anything to do with BBQ's will go crazy.
  • Diet foods and plans. Over 50% of people will have put on weight rather than take it off. Of course, you might go back to the office and find the odd person who has spent the month/ 2 months body building or exercising like a maniac at home. I feel a film script coming on...
  • I'm sure cheap holidays will abound
  • Maybe the High Street will make a comeback as people will want to get out and shop. Don't forget that if you are working, you're probably spending considerably less. (Transport and meals out of the home). I am, I'm actually saving, Not sure how long the job will last though...

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Also the central plot of The Mouse that Roared where the miniscule Duchy of Grand Fenwick declares war
on the United States, in the hope that they will be soundly defeated before taking advantage of the United
States benevolence to its defeated enemies by sending money and aid to the Duchy to rebuild its economy.
Nooo, might be a good film but this is based around a country well Duchy fending off the Americans at a later date in history. Bienvenido Mr. Marshall is all about making the Americans welcome and people dreaming about what to ask the Americans for.

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I did see a report earlier in the week which said that due to the collapse in AirBnB bookings, apartments which were previously rented to tourists were now being advertised for long term rentals, which could be beneficial I suppose to those who found themselves priced out of the rental market in the areas they wanted to live in, or in areas where long term rentals had just become very hard to find - providing people still have jobs in order to pay the rent, that is.
Now that could be an interesting turn of the screw.

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This week there was a news report that with all the hospitals closed they expect 4500 less births. All the fertility treatments are on hold.
I don't see how hospitals being closed will stop births happening...
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There is always an increase in social awareness and solidarity after crises but it rarely lasts until the next one. Governments bring in new legislation to benefit working people, people try to be nice to each other across class divides but people are people and no amount of social engineering whether forced or voluntary will change that.

In any crisis whether domestic, local or national, people behave as they usually do, albeit in more pronounced ways. So the innately stupid and selfish will cavort in Hyde Park or Brighton beach and fill their supermarket trolleys and the kind, generous and thoughtful will do what they can to help family, friends and neighbours.

We expect too much of dramatic events, thinking that because of the temporary impact they have on our lives that impact will somehow be translated into meaningful consequences. People who lived through the London blitz have said that as soon as people emerged from their shelters and the common danger had passed, they reverted to the old neighbourhood bickering and quarrels. People I know have behaved just as I expected them to during the quarantine. Nothing new here.

Those who see humanity 'progressing' towards some kind of moral perfection whether of a spiritual or secular kind seem doomed to disappointment. People have been hoping for a new Jerusalem since the dawn of human consciousness. We should enjoy what we have in the here and now and not live for some future hope.

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Nooo, might be a good film but this is based around a country well Duchy fending off the Americans at a later date in history. Bienvenido Mr. Marshall is all about making the Americans welcome and people dreaming about what to ask the Americans for.
Yes much the same story line as The Mouse that Roared.

As the Fenwickens believed that their little army, sent to New York would be soundly
defeated and therefore their PM was waiting for the American occupation soldiers
to arrive complete with a welcoming committee much like the a liberation day
reception with ( no doubt ) a place of honour for the America PX store where
the Fenwickens could enjoy their post-war American luxuries & goodies.

But their army let them down by coming back with a bomb bigger than the H-Bomb.



Although I'm sure it's the Chinese that are sitting on all the 21st century wealth, what
with all those US Government Bonds and IOU's from the United States were told they
have.

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I'm not so sure that this episode will reflect well on the working from home experiment.

I think that the older generation, still in management of most Spanish businesses, are not yet ready to see this as a benefit. I fear that the message given by most companies upon the return to work will be that of OK, you've had your little holiday period of doing the minimum from home in your pyjamas, now it's time to buckle down and get the company back to where it was.
Very few are going to be able to look back on these weeks and say that they have been as productive and profitable as when working from the office, so the tangible arguments to use against such archaic ideas will be hard to find.
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