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Is there really a Spanish General Election again tomorrow ?
As you wouldn't think so going by the absence of General Election candidate posters in Asturias
which as I've said before, is in marked contrast to the 'gung ho' approach to poster advertising
for the Euro and Municipal Elections.
So how they get to know the names of their prospective local MP candidates for the
General Election is a puzzle.

Of course the Spanish General election run up is amply covered on Spanish TV but
it's this lack of enthusiasm on the poster front that gets me.

Sorry should say - Spanish General Election poster lethargy again.

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So how they get to know the names of their prospective local MP candidates for the
General Election is a puzzle.

Of course the Spanish General election run up is amply covered on Spanish TV but
it's this lack of enthusiasm on the poster front that gets me.
There has been a certain over kill in the past, after all this is the fourth general election in 4 years I think I'm right in saying. There has been a general call to not use too many posters etc. In addition, you can now ask to not receive electoral propaganda through your letter box and I have to say my daughter and husband have not received any.
We are getting phone calls of recorded calls though. I picked up the phone the other day to hear Pablo Iglesias talking to me! These calls usually start with 910 though and now I don't pick up. Apparently they are using social media a lot including What'sApp. As you say there's lots of it, indeed plenty of it on the telly...

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Haven't seen much election publicity displayed here at all. But in Málaga city centre on Thursday and in my home town yesterday, Vox had a stall in a prominent position.
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There has been a certain over kill in the past, after all this is the fourth general election in 4 years I think I'm right in saying. There has been a general call to not use too many posters etc. In addition, you can now ask to not receive electoral propaganda through your letter box and I have to say my daughter and husband have not received any.
We are getting phone calls of recorded calls though. I picked up the phone the other day to hear Pablo Iglesias talking to me! These calls usually start with 910 though and now I don't pick up. Apparently they are using social media a lot including What'sApp. As you say there's lots of it, indeed plenty of it on the telly...
Well I've only been living in Asturias for the past 6 years and therefore cannot say if there was
an overkill on General Election posters, for parties and their candidates in the past, before 2013.

Nevertheless I think the opposite is true in Asturias now, in so much as it remains a mystery to me,
how voters would even know the names of the candidates standing for election in the Cortes ?
Without billboards proclaiming their names and the parties they represent, on the streets of
Asturias and in the immediate area surrounding the Polling Stations.

I don't think Spanish TV will go through, itemizing the name of every constituency in Spain;
together with a run down of the names of the candidates and the parties they represent,
will they ?
Which the local bill boards would always show.

Also there will no doubt be criticism, that over reliance on social media and whatsapp is
disenfranchising the older generation who are still not quite up to speed with mobiles,
facebook and twitter and those living in remote areas of Spain with little or no internet
connectivity.

The fact that this is the fourth general election in four years, is even more reason to pull
out all the stops to 'Get the General Election noticed' otherwise the Govt will only
have themselves to blame if the turnout is apathetic.

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Well I've only been living in Asturias for the past 6 years and therefore cannot say if there was
an overkill on General Election posters, for parties and their candidates in the past, before 2013.

Nevertheless I think the opposite is true in Asturias now, in so much as it remains a mystery to me,
how voters would even know the names of the candidates standing for election in the Cortes ?
Without billboards proclaiming their names and the parties they represent, on the streets of
Asturias and in the immediate area surrounding the Polling Stations.

I don't think Spanish TV will go through, itemizing the name of every constituency in Spain;
together with a run down of the names of the candidates and the parties they represent,
will they ?
Which the local bill boards would always show.

Also there will no doubt be criticism, that over reliance on social media and whatsapp is
disenfranchising the older generation who are still not quite up to speed with mobiles,
facebook and twitter and those living in remote areas of Spain with little or no internet
connectivity.

The fact that this is the fourth general election in four years, is even more reason to pull
out all the stops to 'Get the General Election noticed' otherwise the Govt will only
have themselves to blame if the turnout is apathetic.
As far as I understand it Williams, you vote for a party, not a person and there is plenty of info about the parties in the media, more than a poster in the street. As I said before they are trying to get away from the rather, letś face it, stupid "poster wars" and if they did plaster the place with pin ups, they would be criticised.

When you go to vote, there are hundreds of slips of paper. They are lists of the party members who on the electoral list. You pick the list you want, in full view of everyone who is there I might add, and stuff it into a miniscule envelope. This is always the most difficult thing for OH because the size of the list does not match the size of the envelope and this years he's got a broken arm, so...
The only way to get a little privacy, and not let your neighbour see who you're voting for, is to take several sheets and go into a booth (which in our case is a piece of material with gaps as wide as a door). In our polling station voting is certainly not a private affair.
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Posters have never been a big deal here. It's a historical thing. In the four general elections during the second republic (1931-36) they held public meetings rather than posters and leaflets to spread the word; a lot of people were illiterate. Under Franco of course there were no elections, and in the first one after democracy was restored (1979) everyone knew who they were going to vote for anyway. Tthe idea of displaying your political allegiance via a poster in your window would be anathema in a country where within living memory you could be imprisoned or shot for supporting the wrong side. These days TV debates take the place of public meetings, and Facebook takes the place of leaflets.
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Well as far as I can see the torrential rain that has hit Asturias in recent days, will no doubt affect voter
turnout here.

It's still a mystery to me why Spain ( or at least the Asturias part of it ) pull out all the stops for the Municipal
elections with posters, placards, cars with speakers driving round the streets, encouraging people to vote
for their candidate; and yet the far more important General Election goes by without a murmur unless
your a TV news addict.

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Well as far as I can see the torrential rain that has hit Asturias in recent days, will no doubt affect voter
turnout here.

It's still a mystery to me why Spain ( or at least the Asturias part of it ) pull out all the stops for the Municipal
elections with posters, placards, cars with speakers driving round the streets, encouraging people to vote
for their candidate; and yet the far more important General Election goes by without a murmur unless
your a TV news addict.
In the municipals, especially in smaller cities, voters most likely know the candidates personally and often vote for individuals rather than parties. I know people who vote for one party in the municipals, another in the regionals, and a third in the nationals. So getting your face known and your voice heard is a key part of campaigning.

You're wrong to say the GE is going by without a murmur though. People are talking about it all the time - mostly in the negative, unfortunately. The abstention rate is likely to be high, not just out of apathy but out of protest that the parties can't get their act together and form a government.
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In the municipals, especially in smaller cities, voters most likely know the candidates personally and often vote for individuals rather than parties. I know people who vote for one party in the municipals, another in the regionals, and a third in the nationals. So getting your face known and your voice heard is a key part of campaigning.

You're wrong to say the GE is going by without a murmur though. People are talking about it all the time - mostly in the negative, unfortunately. The abstention rate is likely to be high, not just out of apathy but out of protest that the parties can't get their act together and form a government.
As I said before, I'm looking at the poster, placard and billboard situation on the ground in Asturias and comparing
it to what I've been long accustomed to in the UK; where posters, placards and getting your local MP for
Parliaments face seen, is a big part of the British General Elections. Over there it's only the local UK Council Elections
that tend to go by virtually unnoticed in the UK.

Of course I'm glad I haven't had the usual Party political leaflets, thrust into my apartment letter box which
was again particularly noticeable in the Municipal Elections in Asturias whereas I get zilch for the GE's.

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