Brexit from 4th Sept - Boris calls for a General Election - Page 14

Go Back   Expat Forum For People Moving Overseas And Living Abroad > Europe > Spain Expat Forum for Expats Living in Spain > La Tasca

La Tasca This forum is for socialising, networking and off topic discussions for all members either living in or moving to Spain.

Like Tree195Likes

Brexit from 4th Sept - Boris calls for a General Election - Page 14


Reply
 
Subscribe to this Thread Thread Tools
  #131 (permalink)  
Old 12th September 2019, 01:05 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Spain
Posts: 72
Rep Power: 0
Ovaldo is on a distinguished road
6 likes received
3 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from afghanistan. Users Flag! Expat in spain.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynn R View Post
!

I just wish we could have a definitive statement, from both sides, without all the ifs, buts, maybes, could bes.
On November 1st hopefully everything will be clear....Unlike the sky today..

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #132 (permalink)  
Old 12th September 2019, 03:22 PM
Tigerlillie's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Brittany
Posts: 1,655
Rep Power: 2694
Tigerlillie has a reputation beyond reputeTigerlillie has a reputation beyond reputeTigerlillie has a reputation beyond reputeTigerlillie has a reputation beyond reputeTigerlillie has a reputation beyond reputeTigerlillie has a reputation beyond reputeTigerlillie has a reputation beyond reputeTigerlillie has a reputation beyond reputeTigerlillie has a reputation beyond reputeTigerlillie has a reputation beyond reputeTigerlillie has a reputation beyond repute
2593 likes received
4255 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from england. Users Flag! Expat in france.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynn R View Post
I thought the same on first glance. But isn't it really that the document identifies the cessation of healthcare agreements as a risk, if EU member states refuse UK offers to continue to pay for their healthcare? I know it was posted a few days ago that Spain is to re-examine the earlier Royal Decree on their position regarding UK citizens' rights and healthcare at the end of this week, but up to now they have said the existing arrangements would be honoured providing the UK adopted a reciprocal position and continued to pay for those UK citizens' healthcare which it currently funds - I think!

I just wish we could have a definitive statement, from both sides, without all the ifs, buts, maybes, could bes.
Spot the difference:

https://twitter.com/HTScotPol/status...mmer-live-news

Scottish Parliaments Yellowhammer docs titled Base Scenario.

Quote:
The base case is the model's expected case, determined by using the assumptions that the project team consider are most likely to occur.
Westminster Yellowhammer public released docs titled Reasonable Worst Case.

Quote:
A worst-case scenario is a concept in risk management wherein the planner, in planning for potential disasters, considers the most severe possible outcome that can reasonably be projected to occur in a given situation.
Anyone care to guess why the wording has been changed

https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/oper...e-worst-title/

Quote:
Dr Simon Usherwood, a reader in politics at the University of Surrey, told i: “If the content of the report had changed too, then there might be grounds to justify the change in title, but since it appears to be exactly the same as before, that points to more political pressure to re-label it.

“Ironically, it means that if the reality of a no deal proves to be worse than this, then it will call into question the entirety of the Government’s planning, because this worst-case will have been surpassed,” he added.
Quote:
The Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, Michael Gove, who is in charge of no-deal Brexit planning, has maintained the labelling of the newly released information is correct.

He accused The Sunday Times journalist Rosamund Urwin, who broke the original story about Operation Yellowhammer, of “persisting in an error”.

“Yellowhammer is a reasonable worst case scenario – which we have taken more steps to mitigate – worth checking out evidence to DEXEU select committee for full story,” he tweeted.

However, according to an evidence session in front of Exiting the European Union Committee on the progress of the UK’s negotiations on EU withdrawal from earlier in September, Mr Gove appeared to admit the term “base case” or “base scenario” was included in the Yellowhammer report.

Labour MP Hilary Benn, who is chair of the committee, asked Mr Gove: “All I need for the moment… is this. The words ‘base scenario’ do appear in the Yellowhammer report?”

Mr Gove replied, “Yes.
If members of HMG are going to lie perhaps it's best to remember what you've said previously

__________________
When the last tree is cut, the last fish is caught, and the last river is polluted; when to breathe the air is sickening, you will realize, too late, that wealth is not in bank accounts and that you can’t eat money.

Alanis Obomsawin
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #133 (permalink)  
Old 12th September 2019, 10:19 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Spain
Posts: 263
Rep Power: 122
angkag will become famous soon enoughangkag will become famous soon enough
271 likes received
9 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from england. Users Flag! Expat in spain.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Megsmum View Post
Looks like So called project fear was nearer the truth than that lot of lying ******* Brexit campaigners said. Democracy my rear end....
Its ok, Boris's people explained the Yellowhammer document was 6 weeks out of date and described what would have happened before Boris fixed it all with his no-deal preparations.

Meantime Labour explained they would broker a deal with the EU and then campaign against it in any election.

So we can relax as all is clear now.
Tigerlillie and Megsmum like this.

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #134 (permalink)  
Old 13th September 2019, 07:52 AM
Alcalaina's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Pueblo blanco in Cádiz province since 2008
Posts: 14,299
Rep Power: 98282
Alcalaina has a reputation beyond reputeAlcalaina has a reputation beyond reputeAlcalaina has a reputation beyond reputeAlcalaina has a reputation beyond reputeAlcalaina has a reputation beyond reputeAlcalaina has a reputation beyond reputeAlcalaina has a reputation beyond reputeAlcalaina has a reputation beyond reputeAlcalaina has a reputation beyond reputeAlcalaina has a reputation beyond reputeAlcalaina has a reputation beyond repute
9397 likes received
7098 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from uk. Users Flag! Expat in spain.
Default

Why yellowhammer?

Anyone born in the UK at a time when wild songbirds were still plentiful may recall that its song sounds like

"Little bit of bread and NO CHEESE"

Draw your own conclusions.
jimenato and Megsmum like this.

__________________
Read about life in the pueblo: La Vida Alcalaina
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #135 (permalink)  
Old 13th September 2019, 09:53 AM
Megsmum's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Extremadura
Posts: 7,674
Rep Power: 10723
Megsmum has a reputation beyond reputeMegsmum has a reputation beyond reputeMegsmum has a reputation beyond reputeMegsmum has a reputation beyond reputeMegsmum has a reputation beyond reputeMegsmum has a reputation beyond reputeMegsmum has a reputation beyond reputeMegsmum has a reputation beyond reputeMegsmum has a reputation beyond reputeMegsmum has a reputation beyond reputeMegsmum has a reputation beyond repute
4465 likes received
7049 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from uk. Users Flag! Expat in spain.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alcalaina View Post
Why yellowhammer?

Anyone born in the UK at a time when wild songbirds were still plentiful may recall that its song sounds like

"Little bit of bread and NO CHEESE"

Draw your own conclusions.
Gosh. I remember yellow hammers in my Nana’s back garden
Attached Images
File Type: jpeg 26C0219F-46B5-462F-9489-E496E964666F.jpeg (55.5 KB, 2 views)
Pesky Wesky and Alcalaina like this.

__________________
Life without a border collie is possible but pointless
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #136 (permalink)  
Old 13th September 2019, 11:41 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Velez-Malaga
Posts: 7,231
Rep Power: 8496
Lynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond reputeLynn R has a reputation beyond repute
8943 likes received
5464 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from uk. Users Flag! Expat in spain.
Default

It's a bit late now!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9102686.html

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #137 (permalink)  
Old 13th September 2019, 12:06 PM
Tigerlillie's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Brittany
Posts: 1,655
Rep Power: 2694
Tigerlillie has a reputation beyond reputeTigerlillie has a reputation beyond reputeTigerlillie has a reputation beyond reputeTigerlillie has a reputation beyond reputeTigerlillie has a reputation beyond reputeTigerlillie has a reputation beyond reputeTigerlillie has a reputation beyond reputeTigerlillie has a reputation beyond reputeTigerlillie has a reputation beyond reputeTigerlillie has a reputation beyond reputeTigerlillie has a reputation beyond repute
2593 likes received
4255 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from england. Users Flag! Expat in france.
Default

https://twnews.co.uk/uk-news/kent-co...no-deal-brexit

The leader of Kent Council 'confident the region will avoid disruption' in the event of a No Deal.
Perhaps he should watch this and listen to people who know what they're talking about.

This is Karen Wheeler a retired HMRC civil servant who explains how it will (or won't) work with regards to customs checks and delays involving trucks from the UK.

https://parliamentlive.tv/event/inde...2-88bf216c35b7

Start in at 9.56.....

__________________
When the last tree is cut, the last fish is caught, and the last river is polluted; when to breathe the air is sickening, you will realize, too late, that wealth is not in bank accounts and that you can’t eat money.

Alanis Obomsawin
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #138 (permalink)  
Old 13th September 2019, 11:52 PM
Williams2's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Asturias, Spain
Posts: 3,944
Rep Power: 307
Williams2 will become famous soon enough
1940 likes received
1498 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from uk. Users Flag! Expat in spain.
Default

I'm sure those Expats who have been following the irreverent Brexitcast on BBC Radio 5,
will need no introduction the Brexitcast weekly Podcast as a remedy against insomnia
from Brexit.

BBC Radio 5, Brexitcast episodes

Well on Thursday it made it's TV debut on BBC1 at 11:35 and started to attact an
audience of 1 million viewers.

Brexitcast - First episode on BBC1

PressGazette - BBC's Brexitcast tops 1 million viewers on TV debut



Last edited by Williams2; 13th September 2019 at 11:55 PM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #139 (permalink)  
Old 14th September 2019, 10:16 AM
Pesky Wesky's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Near Madrid. Frequent visitor to Bilbao, love Asturias and Burgos
Posts: 17,863
Rep Power: 61171
Pesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond reputePesky Wesky has a reputation beyond repute
8995 likes received
8861 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from uk. Users Flag! Expat in spain.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynn R View Post

I was going to comment but actually, words fail me.
Lynn R likes this.

__________________
“Nature doesn't need people. People need nature https://www.conservation.org/nature-...Id=mkjwxmcdb0E.”
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #140 (permalink)  
Old 14th September 2019, 10:37 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Shoreham By Sea/ Xirles
Posts: 160
Rep Power: 0
Barriej is on a distinguished road
74 likes received
48 likes given

Users Flag! Originally from uk. Users Flag! Expat in spain.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pesky Wesky View Post
I was going to comment but actually, words fail me.
I don't normally make any comments about the B word.

BUT would it not have saved all this hassle and division if the Spineless PM Cameron had instead of allowing the referendum, just imposed the EU rules on migrants and explained to the voters that this would reduce the immigration issue that many people wrongly thought was caused by the EU? (when it was Labour who decided not to introduce it)

I would have said "As of 1st whenever any EU migrant who wants to come to the Uk and stay beyond 3 months will have to have private health insurance and meet our minimum wage in savings. Failing that they will be ineligible to stay and would get no access to our health care or benefits system" Job done I think...

Im only a simple working class idiot and I understand how it works. (but Ive been planning a move to another EU country so am fully aware of the hoops I would have to jump through)

I have a lot of friends who were unaware of the requiremnets to move from one EU country to another.

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Expat Forum For People Moving Overseas And Living Abroad forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:
Location
Where you live
Expat From Country
Please select the country you originate from. This will appear as a flag when you make posts on the site.
Expat To Country
Please select the country you have either moved to or want to relocate to. This will be presented on the site when you make posts.

Log-in


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


FORUM PARTNERS

ExpatForum.com is owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc.

Retiring Overseas Guides | Moving Overseas Guides | Cost of Living | Health Care Guides


All times are GMT. The time now is 02:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.