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Default European Parliamentary elections - just to clarify

As I understand it British citizens resident in Spain can only vote in local regional elections but not
Spanish General Elections or European Parliamentary elections, so long as they have registered
to vote and therefore cannot vote for a Spanish MEP.

Or is there a grey area over British residents rights to vote in the European Elections in Spain ?,
as my understanding is that ( as the rules stand at the moment - while the UK is still a member
of the EU ) they can only vote for their British MEP in the UK, as British Overseas Voters; just
that one of the British Expats I met on Tuesday night was agruing that as he's never registered
as a British Overseas Voter but only as a voter on the Spanish electoral role; that entitles
him to vote in European Parliamentary elections as well as local regional Spanish elections.
I hasten to add hes not a Brit who's taken up Spanish citizenship and been in the
country for less than 15 years.

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As I understand it British citizens resident in Spain can only vote in local regional elections but not
Spanish General Elections or European Parliamentary elections, so long as they have registered
to vote and therefore cannot vote for a Spanish MEP.

Or is there a grey area over British residents rights to vote in the European Elections in Spain ?,
as my understanding is that ( as the rules stand at the moment - while the UK is still a member
of the EU ) they can only vote for their British MEP in the UK, as British Overseas Voters; just
that one of the British Expats I met on Tuesday night was agruing that as he's never registered
as a British Overseas Voter but only as a voter on the Spanish electoral role; that entitles
him to vote in European Parliamentary elections as well as local regional Spanish elections.
I hasten to add hes not a Brit who's taken up Spanish citizenship and been in the
country for less than 15 years.

I think he's right on the Euros. Last time, when I hadn't registered for voting in the UK, I voted for a Spanish MEP. Since then I registered with my UK constituency, and now I've had a postal vote form from the UK. The main thing is that you can't vote twice.

But we definitely can't vote in the regionals here (Asturias etc). Just the municipals.

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We are still registered as Overseas Voters in the UK and have already received and returned our postal votes for the European elections. We've also received our voting cards for the Spanish local elections.

I do seem to remember that before we registered as Overseas Voters, we did get Spanish voting cards for the European elections as well.

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We are still registered as Overseas Voters in the UK and have already received and returned our postal votes for the European elections. We've also received our voting cards for the Spanish local elections.

I do seem to remember that before we registered as Overseas Voters, we did get Spanish voting cards for the European elections as well.
So there is the possibility of EU citizens ( including the Brits ) in Spain, voting twice for their MEP both in
Spain and their home country. Unless the European electoral voting system has the proper checks in place ?

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So there is the possibility of EU citizens ( including the Brits ) in Spain, voting twice for their MEP both in
Spain and their home country. Unless the European electoral voting system has the proper checks in place ?
I'm not sure how you reached that conclusion from reading my post. For our first few years in Spain we were not registered as Overseas Voters in the UK - hence we did receive voting cards to vote in European elections in Spain. After we registered as Overseas Voters we ceased to receive the Spanish ones (except for local elections) but did receive UK votes in the European elections.

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I'm not sure how you reached that conclusion from reading my post. For our first few years in Spain we were not registered as Overseas Voters in the UK - hence we did receive voting cards to vote in European elections in Spain. After we registered as Overseas Voters we ceased to receive the Spanish ones (except for local elections) but did receive UK votes in the European elections.
Yes those who play by the book shouldn't get EU Parliamentary voting cards twice.
Nevertheless maybe a straight forward banning of EU citizen's who can exercise
their European Parliamentary voting rights abroad - until that right ceases, after
being resident in their adopted country for a certain length of time, would be appropriate.

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We are still registered as Overseas Voters in the UK and have already received and returned our postal votes for the European elections. We've also received our voting cards for the Spanish local elections.

I do seem to remember that before we registered as Overseas Voters, we did get Spanish voting cards for the European elections as well.
I was told recently (by my local council and then confirmed by gov.uk) that overseas voters need to re-register EVERY year.

I voted in the referendum and thought I was still OK to vote in the Europeans. Contacted my council and they said I wasn't registered. Did an online registration and then had to follow this up with paperwork. By the time they responded it was too late (8th May so after the deadline to register). I now can't vote!!
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I was told recently (by my local council and then confirmed by gov.uk) that overseas voters need to re-register EVERY year.

I voted in the referendum and thought I was still OK to vote in the Europeans. Contacted my council and they said I wasn't registered. Did an online registration and then had to follow this up with paperwork. By the time they responded it was too late (8th May so after the deadline to register). I now can't vote!!
That is correct - the onus is on the British overseas voter to ensure that he or she
is registered with the electoral office of their UK Council, as a British Overseas
voter each year. This being the very same UK Council Electoral Office where they
were last registered to vote as British residents in the UK before moving abroad.
As mentioned many times before this entitlement expires after being you have
been more than 15 years resident abroad.

Although some Councils send out reminders when your Oversas voter registration
is due, many don't. In fact it's easier getting your UK Council Electoral Office's
email address and chase them up by email these days.

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I was told recently (by my local council and then confirmed by gov.uk) that overseas voters need to re-register EVERY year.

I voted in the referendum and thought I was still OK to vote in the Europeans. Contacted my council and they said I wasn't registered. Did an online registration and then had to follow this up with paperwork. By the time they responded it was too late (8th May so after the deadline to register). I now can't vote!!
How frustrating! I guess it depends on the constituency because we didn't have to do this (Oxford). We registered just before the referendum so that must have been 2016, and I emailed them before the subsequent general election to check we were still on the list, which they confirmed. Nothing since, yet our MEP voting slips arrived from them last week. Postcode lottery I guess!
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