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From a resident who also lives there and came to the same conclusion that I did

Per an account by a friend and neighbor of the victim: The victim was walking on the libramiento, not the trail down past the cemetery and school. It appears the victim was forced at gunpoint or dragged down the less busy walking path where he was assassinated execution style at close range, two shots to the body, one to the head. This was a senseless murder with all the markings of a hate crime by a deranged individual out to kill a gringo, any gringo. The description of the assailant is ‘a man in a hoodie’.

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I did not imply the man was involved in anything . The murders of expats that have happened at Lakeside have been connected to drugs and yes even elderly people can deal drug.. like the case near jocotepec.. personal vengeance and batched up robbery.
Yes you did imply that the man was involved in something and still are with this post. "The murders of expats that have happened at Lakeside have been connected to drugs and even the elderly can deal drugs."

Earlier you said,

"I saw that in facebook I think it is true and IF someone did this in this manner it was a settlement of some problem the two had.. Not all expats are saints."

So you are indeed implying something while saying that you aren't. As I just posted, another resident of Lakeside called it a hate crime against gringos with no other motive other than to kill a gringo, any gringo. I'll bet we see a lot more if this there, the killing of expats for no other reason than they are expats buying up indigenous land.

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This is one strange thread.
Nobody knows why this happened, but the pure speculation goes on anyway.


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Letter out from the municipality. Does not say much:

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No they do not say much. It is interesting that the name of the man was not released since his wife is at Lakeside so the family knows.. Maybe the MP is on some trail and does not want any information out.. They usually solve the murders of the foreigners, although not always. The woman who owned the house we bought was probably murdered and the culprit was never caught. It was a young foreigner but he was never caught..Her car was recovered about 10 blocks from the house and that was it..

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No motive yet. One person said he was watched and the killer knew when he got his SS check which is unlikely as they are all direct deposit and witnesses said there was no robbery of a card. It was just a killing which echos a report with interviews of the affected people.

Machetes in hand, the indigenous Cocas are climbing the steep scrubby hills that overlook their territory. Young boys climb alongside elders while a trusty donkey carries their camping equipment. Other groups man outposts beside the entrances to Mezcala, the lakeside town their forefathers founded in the late 13th century, over 200 years before the Spanish arrived in Mexico.

They’re heading out on a unique voyage - bringing the community together to discuss their tactics against displacement. The men and boys will spend the night huddled around ceremonial bonfires, telling stories about their heritage, before descending upon the sacred Isle of Mezcala the next morning to discuss with a larger group how to defend their land and way of life. Based in the western state of Jalisco, the Cocas go back more than 700 years and have had to fight off waves of invaders over the centuries.

“We’ve always had invasions by people who want to take control of our land,” says Manuel Jacobo, a 30-year-old activist with a punk-inspired appearance. “We inherited it from our forefathers who fought and gave their lives for it. Our grandfathers used to tell us the myths and legends. We don’t want future generations to lose [the land].”

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Lake Chapala communities are struggling with a landslide of negative publicity lately.

On social media platforms, current residents as well as prospective tourists and potential expat residents are beginning to wonder whether their perceived paradise has become a pair o’ dice.

According to the Lake Chapala Reporter, an unconfirmed murder of a Canadian expat in Ajijic occurred Friday around noon. The week before, four people were shot in Chapala. Two were killed and two are hospitalized.Two armed carjackers were arrested in Chapala in the past week.

Home burglaries are on the rise. Car burglaries are frequent. The crime statistics for the state of Jalisco reported to national authorities were found to be falsified from 2015 to 2018: only 70% of the actual crimes were reported (discovered via a recent audit of the same).

Three men and one woman were arrested for robbery last week — then let go — as the victims refused to press charges for fear of retaliation.

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No one is invading the Cocas of Mezcala. unless they sell their land which is what the indigenous community of Ajijic is going and this has NOTHING to do with the murder unless this man was one of the buyers...
You should worry about your own backyard rather than repeat gossip and bs you are hearing about Lakeside..
Gossips and hearsay are not going to solve this case and the Cocas of Mezcala can take care of themselves as well. believe me.

FYI According to a local lawyer there has been one crime a day in Riberas, some shooting, and kidanappings..We do not need to read Mexico news to know about this.

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The article on the Coacas is extremely misleading and seem to mix the Cocas from Mezcala with the indigenous community of Ajijic. The Cocas have been fighting a rich Tapatio who invaded their land and are against selling their land. They are organized like many other indigenous communities

The indigenous community of Ajijic on the other hand wanted to sell 60 hectares of the 1000 they owned to developers and the local non-indigenous Mexicans put pressure on the president to reverse the change of zoning allowing the sale and construction on those 60 hectares. The foreigners of Ajijic joined the local in the fight against the developers..
The indigenous community of Ajijic does not work the land, nor do they protect it nor do they live on it and it appears that many of them want to sell the land although some of them do not agree.

Dahl is no expert on the situation to say the least, he spent a month in the area and is the big expert on the area... I do not think so. Hopefully this article will discourage many people who really should not be coming down to start with as the area is getting too crowded.


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Back on track, after being insinuated that this 78 year old man was "involved with drugs" there is still no motive or explanation. Chapala Crime Watch Vigilance group on Facebook reports almost daily on crime in the area including home invasions, burglaries, auto thefts, violent purse snatching ( an elderly woman was hospitalized last month after being assaulted for her purse) yet still Chapala resident try to cover this up. There is a resentment of the indigenous and you can try to spin that any way you want but it is real and I'll bet this is just the beginning of a trend of killing expats for no other reason other than to discourage others from moving there and those there to leave.

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