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Zorro2017 23rd December 2017 12:28 PM

More Trump
 
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Originally Posted by citlali (Post 13775697)
Yes they could start going after the naturalized citizens but it is a lot less likely . A few more years of Trump and things could change big time between the two countries.

The way the economy is booming in the USA we likely have 7 more years of Trump.

AlanMexicali 23rd December 2017 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Zorro2017 (Post 13777122)
The way the economy is booming in the USA we likely have 7 more years of Trump.

Gallup Daily: Trump Job Approval

64% of Americans disagree with your view and many would probably hope for his impeachment and the legal prosecution of him and his gang of liars and criminals. How does it feel to be a minorirty? :tongue:

Zorro2017 23rd December 2017 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AlanMexicali (Post 13777178)
Gallup Daily: Trump Job Approval

64% of Americans disagree with your view and many would probably hope for his impeachment and the legal prosecution of him and his gang of liars and criminals. How does it feel to be a minorirty? :tongue:

You still believe polls after the Hillary debacle?

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/06/u...s-unclear.html

Hillary Clinton has a solid lead over Donald Trump in a series of new key polls - Business Insider

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN12T0J6

Clinton Has a Solid Lead Less than a Month Before Election Day | Fortune


I didn't say anything about fake polls, you can't deny the FACT that NASDAQ, the Dow, the S&P 500 are at all time highs.Even the pundits who have been against him all of this time will be getting a bonus for the first time in years.

I'd go gentle on calling people liars and criminals being in the Clinton camp and by the way, her husband was in fact impeached, not just called for.

How does it feel to have been duped?

Zorro2017 23rd December 2017 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AlanMexicali (Post 13777178)
Gallup Daily: Trump Job Approval

64% of Americans disagree with your view and many would probably hope for his impeachment and the legal prosecution of him and his gang of liars and criminals. How does it feel to be a minorirty? :tongue:

di·ver·sion
dəˈvərZHən,dīˈvərZHən/Submit
noun
1. an instance of turning something aside from its course.
"a diversion of resources from defense to civil research"
synonyms: rerouting, redirection, deflection, deviation, divergence
"the diversion of 19 rivers"

What you are doing is called "diversion", diverting the subject or topic because it does not fit your liking or personal agenda of a Trumpian disaster. The fake news predicted that the economy would collapse under Trump.

I made one statement, that the economy is booming. I won't be lured into another long political debate based on fake news and polls which prove to be biased and wrong.

The economy in America is at an all time high. If you can refute that, please do, if not, save your diversion for someone else.

lagoloo 23rd December 2017 02:20 PM

The "booming" economy: It wasn't long ago that Bitcoin was booming, too. Consider the "foundation" on which such matters rest. Some reliable economists are making less than optimistic predictions about the near future, expressed in the financial news pages. Check out the bankruptcies already in process and some on the edge.

The Polls: Name at least one poll that currently shows Trump to have more than a 50% approval rating.

I will resist returning to the matter of the election itself and why Clinton did actually have a "solid" lead leading up the election. That subject has already been exhausted.

AlanMexicali 23rd December 2017 02:34 PM

Psychological Projection example
 
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Originally Posted by Zorro2017 (Post 13777282)
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"a diversion of resources from defense to civil research"
synonyms: rerouting, redirection, deflection, deviation, divergence
"the diversion of 19 rivers"

What you are doing is called "diversion", diverting the subject or topic because it does not fit your liking or personal agenda of a Trumpian disaster. The fake news predicted that the economy would collapse under Trump.

I made one statement, that the economy is booming. I won't be lured into another long political debate based on fake news and polls which prove to be biased and wrong.

The economy in America is at an all time high. If you can refute that, please do, if not, save your diversion for someone else.

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Originally Posted by Zorro2017 (Post 13777202)
You still believe polls after the Hillary debacle?

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/06/u...s-unclear.html

Hillary Clinton has a solid lead over Donald Trump in a series of new key polls - Business Insider

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN12T0J6

Clinton Has a Solid Lead Less than a Month Before Election Day | Fortune


I didn't say anything about fake polls, you can't deny the FACT that NASDAQ, the Dow, the S&P 500 are at all time highs.Even the pundits who have been against him all of this time will be getting a bonus for the first time in years.

I'd go gentle on calling people liars and criminals being in the Clinton camp and by the way, her husband was in fact impeached, not just called for.

How does it feel to have been duped?


Your last 2 posts above is a perfect example of psychological projection. You did not address my first post which was a direct response to your first post on this thread:

"The way the economy is booming in the USA we likely have 7 more years of Trump. "

My direct response to your view that Trump will be President for 7 more years was:

"64% of Americans disagree with your view and many would probably hope for his impeachment and the legal prosecution of him and his gang of liars and criminals. How does it feel to be a minorirty?"

...with a link to the most resent Gallup polls.

Your second post with many links to Hillary and the comment about Bill was a " di·ver·sion
noun
1. an instance of turning something aside from its course" and had nothig to do with Trump or my comment, and by the way I simply ignored your view about the so called "booming" economy as it has been steadily in recovery since 2012, thanks in part to the Democrates in power for the last 5 years [not any Republiicans and definately not the Trump administration]

So in conclusión your psychological projection onto me that I did the diversión and not you is a classic example of someone´s defense mechanism taking effect unconsciously when they do or are doing something [in this case] or a characteristic they have [pathological liar etc.] that they find distasteful in themselves. :tongue:

AlanMexicali 23rd December 2017 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lagoloo (Post 13777722)

On the political problems between the U.S. and Mexico: we expected much more of a backlash from Mexicans after the last election. I guess they are more tolerant of us than we realized. I don't know about the feelings toward expats if the U.S administration escalates it's negative attitudes and actions re Mexico. A crystal ball would helpful at this point. Got one?

When asked what I think of Trump I usualy say: Trump es un pi**** pu** mentiroso grande. That seems to please the askers and I never have to mention anything to do with his screw ups to them again.

lagoloo 23rd December 2017 05:15 PM

Maybe the way I dress or my husband's ponytail screams "liberal Democrats" but nobody has asked either of us about our opinions on Trump. (grin) Yours works for me.

Zorro2017 23rd December 2017 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AlanMexicali (Post 13777458)

Your second post with many links to Hillary and the comment about Bill was a " di·ver·sion

Yes, you almost lured me into it until I realized your Gallup pole, impeachment, and name calling was simply a diversion, then I went back on course.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlanMexicali (Post 13777458)
I simply ignored your view about the so called "booming" economy as it has been steadily in recovery since 2012, thanks in part to the Democrates in power for the last 5 years [not any Republiicans and definately not the Trump administration]

That's hilarious, Obama himself tried to take credit for the booming economy recently. Obama has nothing to do with today's economy, more diversion and false credit grabbing.

The stock market started to boom on November 9, 2016, the day after the election. The Dow soared 257 points, and gained 9 percent by year-end, for the biggest post-election rally ever. Why? Because investors believed that newly-elected President Trump was determined to create jobs, bring businesses back to the U.S., lower taxes and loosen the regulatory noose created by Obama. That’s what he campaigned on, and that’s why he was elected and that is precisely what he is delivering.

lagoloo 23rd December 2017 07:47 PM

...."and that is precisely what he is delivering. "

What he has actually delivered is an uptick in the stock market, based on hope. Fine, if you're an investor right now.

Meanwhile, the new sign-ups for the embattled ACHA (Obamacare) are the highest yet. It's on life support but not dead yet, no thanks to Trump. The emergency wards will soon be overwhelmed again if delivers as planned.

More that he delivered: The non-millionaire, non-corporate public is screaming bloody murder over the tax "reform" that does much for the few and so little for the many.

He's also delivered a huge reduction in the size of some national parks; they now can drill in the Arctic, and polluting companies are no longer shackled by regulations. Coal is encouraged. Good things for the new humans in utero and the existing grandkids, not to mention the already lung impaired and the old folks ?

Several corps, including Ford Motor Co. have already announced their intentions about offshoring future production. Doesn't look like Trump's campaign rhetoric is having much effect on them.

Now, where's that poll that doesn't give him poorer marks from the public than any recent POTUS? Who did it?

Is he delivering any benefits to you yet? None coming to me. In fact, he's promising cuts in something dear to many hearts: going after those "entitlements", including those of present and future retirees. Funny, since I paid much more into SS as a self employed person. I feel damn well entitled to my checks.

It will be interesting to see how his time in office is rated in the assessment of future historians.
I'm guessing somewhere in the same neighborhood as Andrew Jackson; a man of like mind and similar ego.


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