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The Orange Cheeto-in-Chief showing he is a genius again, in his 4th July speech says that America is an exceptional country, probably the most exceptional country in the world.

Yes it's so exceptional that it apparently had aeroplanes and airports 134 years before they were invented


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Yes but he blamed it on the teleprompters. Always someone else for this narcissist.

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Do you know that Zorro is not on the board right now? See thread "Where is Zorro?" or something like that.

As for the latest Trump thing (you can't make this stuff up): Trump today announced he won't produce his tax returns because they are "under audit". This must mean that the U.S. has the most inefficient I.R.S. imaginable, since two years ago, he told the same story. ... and I do mean "story" !
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...e-election?amp

"Many liberals associate positive emotions with empirical facts and reason, which is why their intentional system is triggered into doing fact-checking on news stories. Trump voters mostly do not have such positive emotions around the truth, and believe in Trump’s authenticity on a gut level regardless of the facts. This difference is not well recognized by the mainstream media, who treat their audience as rational thinkers and present information in a language that communicates well to liberals, but not to Trump voters.

To get more conservatives to turn on the intentional system when evaluating political discourse we need to speak to emotions and intuitions—the autopilot system, in other words. We have to get folks to associate positive emotions with the truth first and foremost, before anything else.

To do so, we should understand where these people are coming from and what they care about, validate their emotions and concerns, and only then show, using emotional language, the harm people suffer when they believe in lies. For instance, for those who care about safety and security, we can highlight how it’s important for them to defend themselves against being swindled into taking actions that make the world more dangerous. Those concerned with liberty and independence would be moved by emotional language targeted toward keeping themselves free from being used and manipulated. For those focused on family values, we may speak about trust being abused.

These are strong terms that have deep emotional resonance. Many may be uncomfortable with using such tactics of emotional appeals. We have to remember the end goal of helping people orient toward the truth. This is a case where ends do justify the means. We need to be emotional to help people grow more rational—to make sure that while truth lost the battle, it will win the war."

This article seems to hit at some facts why nonsense is believable to many through the emotional side and not the logical side of their brain.

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The "logical" side of the brain has no comfort to offer: the world is what it is: evil sometimes dominates: we all pass into non-existence in time.
How much more lovable is the concept that someday, there is a "heaven" where we will be reunited with our loved ones and evil will not exist.
C'mon....ever have a discussion with a "believer" suggesting it ain't so?
Trump has promised some small (to many of us, but large to believers) things that keep them on his side. I'd say persuading them that this man should not be POTUS would be hopeless.
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The "logical" side of the brain has no comfort to offer: the world is what it is: evil sometimes dominates: we all pass into non-existence in time.
How much more lovable is the concept that someday, there is a "heaven" where we will be reunited with our loved ones and evil will not exist.
C'mon....ever have a discussion with a "believer" suggesting it ain't so?
Trump has promised some small (to many of us, but large to believers) things that keep them on his side. I'd say persuading them that this man should not be POTUS would be hopeless.
https://www.salon.com/2019/04/13/the...el-the-nation/


"Bigot’s Rights: Theocracy’s Foundation

As I noted here in 2016, this new homophobic discriminatory vision exactly echoes the racist discriminatory vision that birthed the religious right in the 1970s. The connection is transparently obvious. When Mississippi passed a “religious freedom” law that year, which only protected the freedom of bigots, the Jackson city council unanimously passed a resolution rebuking the law, and Mayor Tony Yarber explicitly connected bigotry past and present:

As a predominantly black city in Mississippi, the Jackson community has endured racism, discrimination and injustice over the years. We are Mississippi’s capital city, and as part of our declaration of being the "Bold New City," we will not discriminate against any individual because of race, religious beliefs or sexual orientation, nor do we support legislation that allows for such discrimination.

The battleground Project Blitz has chosen revolves around a falsified history of America as a “Christian nation” — sharply at odds with “The Godless Constitution” we actually have — and a newly-minted definition of “Christianity” as rooted in homophobia. With these twin lies in place, they position themselves as the “true Christians” and “true Americans” suffering from government oppression.

With that false social identity in place, Christian nationalists rationalize the “freedom” to discriminate as a fundamental right, powering a shift from defense to offense, that was perfectly captured by Katherine Stewart in a New York Times op-ed last year, "A Christian Nationalist Blitz." "

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I have a question for you guys here (I did ask over on the France forum as there are a few Americans there), as has been reported in the 'fake news media' POTUS 45 has implied that he might not vacate the WH if he loses the next Presidential elections in 2020.

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How can he even refuse to leave the WH?
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I've been saying for months now that, even if he flat out loses the election in 2020, he'll have to be dragged, kicking and screaming from the White House.
There were a couple of replies which didn't really answer my question and I'm still none the wiser than I was before; can any of you answer this?

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I have a question for you guys here (I did ask over on the France forum as there are a few Americans there), as has been reported in the 'fake news media' POTUS 45 has implied that he might not vacate the WH if he loses the next Presidential elections in 2020.
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My guess is we won't know for sure until it happens. Much of this stuff has depended on custom rather than explicit rules. Like the president making his tax returns available, we haven't had procedures to enforce it, if someone like Trump chooses to flout custom. I expect we will find out if he loses the election in 2020 or in 2024 when his term ends. He didn't accept the results of the election even when he won in 2016. There is no reason to expect that he will accept the results when or if he loses. It probably won't be the CIA since their mandate does not include domestic issues, just foreign, but the FBI or Secret Service would be my guess. I hope they do their job.

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My guess is we won't know for sure until it happens. Much of this stuff has depended on custom rather than explicit rules. Like the president making his tax returns available, we haven't had procedures to enforce it, if someone like Trump chooses to flout custom. I expect we will find out if he loses the election in 2020 or in 2024 when his term ends. He didn't accept the results of the election even when he won in 2016. There is no reason to expect that he will accept the results when or if he loses. It probably won't be the CIA since their mandate does not include domestic issues, just foreign, but the FBI or Secret Service would be my guess. I hope they do their job.
Thanks for the reply

It's all rather bizarre (this whole Presidency has been bizarre come to that ) and I wasn't banking on a definitive answer, I just can't understand how, if he loses, he could potentially squat in the WH and refuse to leave.

I must admit though I would love to see the Orange Cheeto-in-Chief frogmarched out of the WH in handcuffs.
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[QUOTE=Tigerlillie;14966850]I have a question for you guys here (I did ask over on the France forum as there are a few Americans there), as has been reported in the 'fake news media' POTUS 45 has implied that he might not vacate the WH if he loses the next Presidential elections in 2020.]

You mean kind of like Hillary and the entire democratic party still refusing to accept the results of the election three years later? He will not lose unless a LOT of dead people and non citizens vote.
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I have a question for you guys here (I did ask over on the France forum as there are a few Americans there), as has been reported in the 'fake news media' [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.expatforum.com/expats/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/IMG] POTUS 45 has implied that he might not vacate the WH if he loses the next Presidential elections in 2020.]

https://news.yahoo.com/what-happens-...140639064.html

"If Trump is still contesting the results as the end of his term approaches and refusing to participate in a transition of power, Baker points out, he could be impeached and tried in the Senate — even if he has already been impeached, tried and exonerated once.

Ultimately the resolution could be in the hands of Chief Justice John Roberts, who is responsible for administering the oath of office and presumably — although this again has never been put to the test — could refuse to swear in a candidate he regarded as illegitimate."

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