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You can buy a used car without a problem. It would be issued as a EE license but you do intend to stay for more than a year then you would have to obtain an Italian license. You can then insure the car via Clements Int'l.. an american insurance broker for expats. I wouldn't get an italian insurance coverage, it is very expensive.

You may want to consider renting a car via AutoEurope which has long term rentals for americans.
this seems to be the opposite answer to all the others, including our advice from our realtor. He says DO NOT TRY and he is working with a solicitor to address, clarify or discover a legal way, and meanwhile strongly urges me to stay away from it, so very interested in your recent experience ( he said there was a new law a year or so ago). And does your answer apply to non-EE( am americana)..thanks

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Firstly, I must say that the comune has nothing whatsoever to do with you buying a car here in Italy. Secondly, you do not have to have "residenza" in Italy in order to buy a car here - although, as the law was only changed a couple of years ago, there may still be people that are not aware of the current legal situation.

To buy a car here, you need to have your Codice Fiscale - which is simple and easy to get. The car dealer from whom you buy your car should be aware that you can self-certify your address - a "autocertificazione". You do, of course, need an address here in order for the car to be registered - like anywhere else, in fact. If your intention is to buy a car for export to another country, you do not need the autocertificazione - but you will not have an Italian registered car then either.
Hi Nardini,
thanks for the useful information. However a few questions-
- What do you write in the dichiarazione of the autocertificazione?
- I have agreed to buy a car from a friend, what paperwork do I need to register it in my name ? What will ACI want?

any help is appreciated
thanks Helen

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Hi Nardini,
thanks for the useful information. However a few questions-
- What do you write in the dichiarazione of the autocertificazione?
- I have agreed to buy a car from a friend, what paperwork do I need to register it in my name ? What will ACI want?

any help is appreciated
thanks Helen
Hi Helen,

The auto declaration requires only that you give your name, address (in Italy, of course) and your codice fiscale. The document is normally prepared by the garage or dealership from which you are buying the car. In the case of buying a car from a friend, you will really need to pay a visit to a local notaio fro the correct procedures to be followed. ACI will not need to be contacted directly as your notaio will handle that particular part of the procedure.

This is where I mentioned earlier the situation here when buying a car privately and not through an authorised car dealer. A private individual still has to arrange the sale of his/her car through a lawyer in order to comply fully with the law.

Sorry about that.

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Buonasera,
abbiamo sentito la nostra Agenzia di Consulenza Pratiche Auto e ci hanno riferito che Lei per poter acquistare una vettura in Italia deve avere:
certificato di iscrizione AIRE
oppure
certificato di residenza italiana
Cordiali Saluti.
The above is the reply we just received from the dealership. We arrive next week and hope to figure this out. Don't know AIRE, can't get residenza, can't drive to italy either...need to buy, does this dealer seem to be aware of what we need? ThANKS

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[QUOTE=gsimon;155424 Don't know AIRE, can't get residenza, can't drive to italy either...need to buy, does this dealer seem to be aware of what we need? ThANKS[/QUOTE]

Are you an Italian citizen? If not AIRE doesn't apply to you.

Yup the dealer knows.Some care more about the rules then others.

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yes, thanks, our realtor said the same, so as far as we have figured out, we simply cannot buy a used car. We want to be reasonable, but we also want to be compliant. This site is very helpful though, both with advice, details, and practical solutions.

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Firstly, I must say that the comune has nothing whatsoever to do with you buying a car here in Italy. Secondly, you do not have to have "residenza" in Italy in order to buy a car here - although, as the law was only changed a couple of years ago, there may still be people that are not aware of the current legal situation.

To buy a car here, you need to have your Codice Fiscale - which is simple and easy to get. The car dealer from whom you buy your car should be aware that you can self-certify your address - a "autocertificazione". You do, of course, need an address here in order for the car to be registered - like anywhere else, in fact. If your intention is to buy a car for export to another country, you do not need the autocertificazione - but you will not have an Italian registered car then either.
Hi Nardini,

We are moving to Calabria soon and everything we have read elsewhere indicates the need for residency to buy/register vehicles. Do you have a link to the recent Italian regulations you mention. The other question is whether this new rule applies only to EU citizens. We keep running into different rules for Yanks. Perhaps you had a good experience because you are from Ireland? On a related issue, I did just read on another forum about a new law that mandates that questure in certain cities are required to respond to applications for permesso di soggiorno quickly and give applicants a date to come for interviews. 6 weeks vs. 6 months to receive PdS (a story of other Americans we have heard many times) would be good news and enable us to buy a car much sooner.

Saluti,

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Hi Helen,

The auto declaration requires only that you give your name, address (in Italy, of course) and your codice fiscale. The document is normally prepared by the garage or dealership from which you are buying the car. In the case of buying a car from a friend, you will really need to pay a visit to a local notaio fro the correct procedures to be followed. ACI will not need to be contacted directly as your notaio will handle that particular part of the procedure.

This is where I mentioned earlier the situation here when buying a car privately and not through an authorised car dealer. A private individual still has to arrange the sale of his/her car through a lawyer in order to comply fully with the law.

Sorry about that.
Thanks Nardini for this information. Being a Canadian with a home in Umbria, the topic is of much interest to me.
Do you know if this information is valid if you are a non EU citizen? Is the car still insured by and Italian company?
Many thanks for the help.
Elin

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I'm an American Citizen who has recently bought a used car in Italy. You don't need anything other than a codice fiscale - equivalent to a Social Security number. Don't even need an Italian driver's license but you do need to be a resident. If you buy it through a private person there is a title fee of approx 400 to pay regardless of the price of the car. Then you have a road tax, which varies for the car. I have a VW Passat and it's about 240/year and a Peugot which costs me approx 213/yr.

You can drive the car as a EE resident, which means you aren't a resident per se however, If you plan to be here more than a year you will have to take the road test and get an Italian license, they no longer convert US/Canadian license. They did 20 years ago, but have changed in the 90's.

The best bet is to go through a car dealership, however, being in Calabria I don't know if you won't find one that will take the piss out of you and charge you more than need be.

Then there is the insurance, if it's a relatively new car you have to get an insurance, plus make sure you insure the driver (extra cost) and get the casco - which is fire,theft and damage. I've gotten my insurance via a US company called Clements Int'l. I don't know if they'd insure a Canadian expat. The costs is much cheaper than the Italian and if you have any problems they are quick to resolve, including issuance of checks.

It's not cut and dry and depending on the area your moving to it may get complicated solely because most people haven't a clue. If you move to Milan, Rome or Florence there are more Americans and Canadians coming over so they are used to the process.

An Other option is, ship your car over for about $1000 (at least that's the cost from NY to Genoa). You can keep the registration as is for a year and drive around without a problem. After a year you can change everything or sell the car.

Contact the Italian Embassy in Canada and see if they can help. Or, if you are being transferred with a company, get them to help you out. The worse is the drivers license, after a year you are obligated to get an Italian license (which means going to school, driving etc and it'll cost about 600) or you can always buy one. I wouldn't recommend it since they are cracking down on this practice.

Soggiorno- if you are moving cause of a job have them get this for you. If you are doing it on your own, you need to prove you can support yourself and it takes up to 6 weeks to get this done.

My mother was born in Italy and married, went to the states, lost her citizenship and has been trying to get it back. It took 3 years for us to find someone who actually knew what they were doing. I'm telling you this solely to prepare yourself to find loads of patience



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Hi Nardini,

We are moving to Calabria soon and everything we have read elsewhere indicates the need for residency to buy/register vehicles. Do you have a link to the recent Italian regulations you mention. The other question is whether this new rule applies only to EU citizens. We keep running into different rules for Yanks. Perhaps you had a good experience because you are from Ireland? On a related issue, I did just read on another forum about a new law that mandates that questure in certain cities are required to respond to applications for permesso di soggiorno quickly and give applicants a date to come for interviews. 6 weeks vs. 6 months to receive PdS (a story of other Americans we have heard many times) would be good news and enable us to buy a car much sooner.

Saluti,

Doug
Oregon, USA/Santa Domenica Talao, IT

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You may want to look into renting a car long term via EuropeCAr, it may be cheaper and easier in the long run.. Depends on how long your are planning to stay but it would help in the interim while you find out things.



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this seems to be the opposite answer to all the others, including our advice from our realtor. He says DO NOT TRY and he is working with a solicitor to address, clarify or discover a legal way, and meanwhile strongly urges me to stay away from it, so very interested in your recent experience ( he said there was a new law a year or so ago). And does your answer apply to non-EE( am americana)..thanks

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