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Old 22nd June 2016, 11:01 PM
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They could at least use an exchange rate that is not years old. Still, its a baseline. And would it kill them to say if they additional person amount is an added precentage (I've seen 40% frequently on official Italian sources). I think they get a perverse joy out of being as vague as they can. They like so see people sweating on the other side of the glass.

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I think they get a perverse joy out of being as vague as they can. They like so see people sweating on the other side of the glass.
I seriously doubt it.

For perspective, every foreigner applying for a visa to the United States (USCIS/State Department) and entering the United States (CBP) deals with officers who have virtually unlimited discretion, and foreigners have practically (or actually) no right of appeal. They make judgment calls all the time, with finality. Different officers make different judgments -- and the same officers even make different judgments in similar cases.

Italy operates the same way -- and so do practically all other countries. Except that Italy actually offers an Elective Residence visa to some qualified applicants. Unlike Italy, the United States has no "retirement visa" -- nothing comparable. For this (small) cohort at least, Italy is extraordinarily generous. Let's try to remember that -- and, if you're a foreigner, your place in the world. Unless it's your country of citizenship (or treaty area in the case of the EU/EEA and EU/EEA citizens), every visa, every entry, is a privilege, nothing more.

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I wouldn't assume that your $7,000 monthy combined income is a guarantee for a visa. The consulates may take other circumstances into consideration. For example:

I had been living in Italy as an Italian citizen for ten years (retired) at which time, I returned to the USA to try and bring my companion back to Italy with me. He showed $7,000 secure monthly income for just himself and the consulate agreed to give him a visa because he would be in Italy with me, an Italian citizen, and because one of my Italian relatives agreed to be a "sponsor" for him.

In the end, he didn't need the visa because he obtained his Italian passport through his Italian grand-father, which the consulate knew was also in process but might take longer than we wanted to wait to get back to Italy. So all of these extra circumstances were already in play when the consulate said his income would be sufficient. Therefore, I wouldn't assume that because you think you meet the income requirements and you have friends in Italy and you've spent a lot of time there, that you're good to go. If your friends are not Italian citizens but other foreigners like yourself who cannot "sponsor" you, a consulate would not likely consider this as a reason to give you a visa.

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They could at least use an exchange rate that is not years old. .
The consulates update Fx rates every three months. If things hadn't changed they change the local currency amount for fees etc this way.

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The consulates update Fx rates every three months. If things hadn't changed they change the local currency amount for fees etc this way.
I agree except that rate of $1.30 = €1.00 is way more than a few months old; more like a few years. The current rate is $1.139 = €1.00.

I wonder if they deliberately use a "middle of the road" exchange rate to cover possible future changes. The rate was as high as $1.55 = €1.00 in June, 2008; $1.30 would very nearly split the difference between today's rate and the high point.

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Is it just me, or has the Miami Consulate web site scrubbed pretty much everything relating to Visa's? All of the US Consulates tend to use the same template, but suddenly Miami is down to a very minimal style, with minimal information to boot.

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