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Old 10th September 2012, 03:46 PM
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Hi to you all.
We should have been arriving in Abruzzo today to make a new start in a house that we have got in beautiful Ofena, we had sold our house in the UK and Pickfords had emptied us out, but unfortuantely we have had to cancel the plan to move abroad at the last minute because of my husbands health.
We have a two bedroomed house, two storey barn and a 660sq.m garden full of olive, grapes, walnut,fruit and figs now to sell.
We had almost completely refurbished the top floor when the earthquake damaged it so although we bought it nearly six years ago we are no nearer moving in than before although we had bought a caravan to take over and live in for a while.
There is also two new single wrought iron beds(with mattresses)beautiful chest of drawers, fridge, microwave, tools etc that we had already bought so if anybody knows of someone who would like to buy them we will gladly sell.
We will be coming over in a few weeks to put the house on the market with an estate agent.It still needs repairing(the roof has to come off and a concrete collar and ties inserted) but it is in a beautiful quiet spot on the edge of the village, the neighbours are lovely and a few speak English. As you can imagine it is a very stressful time at the moment but I wish all of you that have made the move and those that are going to all the best for the future.
Enjoy.
I am so sorry to read this. I believe we are neighbors; the house next to the garden. Please come by when you are in ofena; and we'll be glad to help you with real estate agent; as well as the other things ! joseph and izabela

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nick rather than limiting it to cold i would suggest temperature and how each of us cope is a subjective argument.. I know people that cannot stand the heat when for me its something that makes me feel healthy.. sort of warms the bones and makes aches and pains disappear, but i find the constant story about Abruzzo not suffering from cold a bit misleading as it is accepted that on the Adriatic side it is subject to a continental climate, not even a Mediterranean one, its obvious that its also very reliant on height above sea level as well and proximity to the coast.. these factors make your choice of area to live very important and confusing as well , the micro climates here are basically very important in terms of your choice of property along with price,which often happens to be peoples ultimate criteria .. the fact that L'Aquila as a province apart form small areas like rocarasso is always going to be much better in terms of cost per sq m and places like Vasto will always have a higher cost than places further inland or higher up.. that moving north to the Marche or south to Puglia is not really going to influence climatic conditions as much as one might think.. more so the height and sea distance but one thing for sure is that Italy does not have a tropical or sub tropical climate in any part , has extremes of temperatures that will be unsuitable for many people many times of the year and has more rain annually in most places than Manchester in the UK.. the main difference being it arrives over a much shorter period and with more intensity causing to my mind more problems than snow or cold .. or even earthquakes.. but Italy is a very problematic place in geological terms, as the last earthquake in Emilia proved ..

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My reason for pointing out the rain and gloom is most people thinking it's sunny and warm 365. If it's raining and 10C it feels like crap out for most people. OTOH if it's 10C and sunny it'll feel reasonable.

The rain autumn and winter is a bigger problem IMHO then the cold. Aquila is the coldest regional capital in Italy. But even Aquila isn't arctic. Still if it's raining and you feel trapped inside it's highly unlikely you'll be happy.
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Our plans are for a move to Abruzzo some time next year after we sell our southern California home. The discussions on climate are very helpful as we try to refine our search area. Generalizations are still valuable as it gives a range of impressions but we still have to allow for the inevitable exceptions. Currently, we are interested in the Sulmona area and wonder if being somewhat to the west of the spine of the Appenines makes a perceivable climatic difference? We plan to initially rent to get better aclimated and then see where experience leads us.

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Our plans are for a move to Abruzzo some time next year after we sell our southern California home. The discussions on climate are very helpful as we try to refine our search area. Generalizations are still valuable as it gives a range of impressions but we still have to allow for the inevitable exceptions. Currently, we are interested in the Sulmona area and wonder if being somewhat to the west of the spine of the Appenines makes a perceivable climatic difference? We plan to initially rent to get better aclimated and then see where experience leads us.
We also have recently list3d our house for sale and will Asap to Italy as soon as it sells. I sold our home in Santa Barbara 2& 1/2 yrs ago but this isLompoc and the area is almost impossible to sell without a realestate agent. We have been doing some minor things to improvements. Will you be taking any pets? What airport will you use and how far along are your plans we have just started. My husband Bob had to write to Illinois for another birth certificate as his was not accepted even though it was accepted for the Airforce and stated on the back it was for passport use.Nuts here in Ca! Husban is retired and I am a puppeteer sculptor and children's program tv producer on public comcast. Susan and Bob ps my family is from Northern italy.

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Hi-

Our plans are centered around going on the house sale market next Spring in the hopes of a little better real estate outlook. Another factor is we do have a pet we are very attached to, a cat who has been a very close companion for almost 18 years. He is approaching an end to his life and could not handle a move. Another factor in our delay.

We have done some traveling in Italy but have not had any Abuzzo experience. From what we have researched it seems an excellent starting point from the standpoint of good location and prices having not yet gone through the tourist stimulated inflation. We are looking at this as a potential for a very extended stay but see southern California as a fall back because of family, friends, and of course, climate.

We are looking a renting in Abruzzo initially due to the overall unsure economic conditions. But with selling our home, we are cutting our economic anchor here. We have made several English speaking contacts who have been very helpful. Another thing we are doing is making heavy use of Google Earth to literally drive down the streets of towns and villages that look promising.

At this point, we are inclined to be a little closer to the coast for a more moderate climate compared to winter in the mountains but are not attracted to the beach communities because of the turnover, density and higher prices. We are looking at smaller towns with everyday conveniences we can walk to.

Present plans are for a scouting trip in April so we are in the process of narrowing the field to make the most of that effort.

We are very excited about this and look forward to being able to make relatively short excursions to see some old favorite sites at more leisure and to discover new ones.

If you have reason to come to the San Diego area, we would be happy to share a botle of Muntipulciano d' Abruzzo and compare notes.

Larry and Arlene

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Our plans are centered around going on the house sale market next Spring in the hopes of a little better real estate outlook. Another factor is we do have a pet we are very attached to, a cat who has been a very close companion for almost 18 years. He is approaching an end to his life and could not handle a move. Another factor in our delay.

We have done some traveling in Italy but have not had any Abuzzo experience. From what we have researched it seems an excellent starting point from the standpoint of good location and prices having not yet gone through the tourist stimulated inflation. We are looking at this as a potential for a very extended stay but see southern California as a fall back because of family, friends, and of course, climate.

We are looking a renting in Abruzzo initially due to the overall unsure economic conditions. But with selling our home, we are cutting our economic anchor here. We have made several English speaking contacts who have been very helpful. Another thing we are doing is making heavy use of Google Earth to literally drive down the streets of towns and villages that look promising.

At this point, we are inclined to be a little closer to the coast for a more moderate climate compared to winter in the mountains but are not attracted to the beach communities because of the turnover, density and higher prices. We are looking at smaller towns with everyday conveniences we can walk to.

Present plans are for a scouting trip in April so we are in the process of narrowing the field to make the most of that effort.

We are very excited about this and look forward to being able to make relatively short excursions to see some old favorite sites at more leisure and to discover new ones.

If you have reason to come to the San Diego area, we would be happy to share a botle of Muntipulciano d' Abruzzo and compare notes.

Larry and Arlene
excellent and reasonable posting and i can pretty well agree on all your points.. would also suggest if you are a follower of the montepulciano grape that this is an excellent criteria to add in to your search experience.. basically it means that if you choose an area based on vineyards climate will be more than suitable for human occupation.... you will find it along most of the inland hill sides close to the coast.. and from experience i can suggest areas here in the Teramo province that are delightful, colonella ,torrano nuovo,mosciano sant angelo and notaresco..all spring to mind as vibrant just set back from the coast communities ...where prices in terms of rentals will be much less than on the coast.. and all the areas are subject to a micro climate that reduces the amount of rainfall, ie grapes do not do so well where damp and humidity lead to the need to use lots of chemicals to combat mildew.. there are other famous areas that do well .. i am only listing the ones i know here ...one strange phenomenon at the moment is that due to the economic climate here sales are pretty well blocked.. whilst rentals are on the increase.. as people can afford rentals but banks will now loan to allow them to buy houses... and pay mortgages.. this is leading to a slightly more vibrant rental market.. another major reason is the introduction of the IMU tax.. so you find more rentals coming on the market as people try and offset costs of second and third homes.. this should balance out the demand factor so no huge rental cost increases in sight.. but the availability i believe will still be there next year in large numbers and a wide choice.. above all its important to make sure you have a proper rental contract all signed and stamped to avoid any problems with the tax agency

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Sounds like you have a great plan! We are slowly putting together our planning our 'order of importance agenda'. OUr two elderly cats are being adopted by our youngest son in Illinois a bachelor with a huge house to share. We understand your concern for your cat! W e will be taking three German Shepherds, a Green Wing Macaw, 4African Greys, and a male Eclectus. UGH LOL We plan to rent a travel van and had planned to fly into Pisa airport but have now learned Tuscany has an airport too? Renting first was not a consideration but we would consider. What we are hoping to buy is at least an acre or two with a large finished house and since I will be leaving my beloved 3huge wood fireplaces that feature is steller on my list!
And not too far from town, weather comparable to coastal here in Ca of course lol.
That wine I have not tried sounds yummy thank you for the invitation if you plan a trip up the coast we are in Mesa Oaks above Lompoc and we can compare notes and visit.
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all unsure economic conditions. But with selling our home, we are cutting our economic anchor here. We have made several English speaking contacts who have been very helpful. Another thing we are doing is making heavy use of Google Earth to literally drive down the streets of towns and villages that look promising.

At this point, we are inclined to be a little closer to the coast for a more moderate climate compared to winter in the mountains but are not attracted to the beach communities because of the turnover, density and higher prices. We are looking at smaller towns with everyday conveniences we can walk to.

Present plans are for a scouting trip in April so we are in the process of narrowing the field to make the most of that effort.

We are very excited about this and look forward to being able to make relatively short excursions to see some old favorite sites at more leisure and to discover new ones.

If you have reason to come to the San Diego area, we would be happy to share a botle of Muntipulciano d' Abruzzo and compare notes.

Larry and Arlene[/QUOTE]

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