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Old 30th July 2010, 03:37 PM
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i live near the city of Teramo and people live and do things here all year round.. i should think Pescara also is a lively city all year round

we have festivals all year a theatre, two cinemas a football team, not that good i will admit, but our basket ball team are in the top league and usually come near the top of that..

concerts on at the new stadium, restauarants and agriturismo open all year.. its strange i have never thought of Abruzzo as a seasonal region.. so am not actually sure what you mean... although if you are talking about some of the coastal towns i will agree although both giulianova and rosetto are pretty well established as non seasonal towns as they are both large
We do live on coast although we are moving to France end of August.

Although you may make valid points we found winters long here, and unless your Italian is very good theatres and cinemas have little appeal. As they say you can only speak as you find.

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again i have to disagree with the point that abruzzo is seasonal i guess it depends on whether you mean a self catering or b & b would only have two months of the year of business. i run a self catering apartment and for me the season runs from april to october. that is only by choice as i don't take bookings in the winter although i know a lot of people who have guests all the year round. as for things to do there is always plenty in pescara or chieti or as the other respondant has said in teramo.

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Renee ..good luck with your move to France.. presume you have french.. having lived in a few areas there .. montpelier,antibes and geuret am not sure the weather will be better.. i remember freezing winters .. in fact i doubt you will find many olive trees producing there because its too cold.. and not enough sun.. living on the coast is very seasonal in some areas.. but maybe if you had chosen Pescara which is the largest city in abruzzo on the coast.. too maybe you would have found it a livelier more cosmopolitan life here...

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We did so also last year and we were equallly exceited. We thought we were fairly knowledable (we built our house here in UK), we'd followed expat forums and we had some contacts in abruzzo but we have and are still experiencing, real difficulties so from my experiences some possible tips:
- take care and a bit of time to get references of companies from users on this and other forums. We used Ancient Properties but a falling out between two of their staff has resulted in real difficulties for us (and some more pain to come, I'm sure).
- get to know local expats and Italians and seek their information and advice
- ensure you undertake due diligence when assessing the properties eg use your own eyes eg looking for cracks etc, get survey or engineer to advise.
- factor in (probably) very high costs for work, labour and materials eg windows, roof, heating systems... Get specifications of the work to be done and stick to agreed quotes.
- get good, trustworthy geometra, builder and project manager (if needed). You really do need to have faith in the people working with you on your project.
I hope that these comments will be helpful and best wishes with your project.

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I'm not sure as a newcomer to this forum that I should be commenting on this area(Abbruzzo) that I know little about(though Chieti is a hell of a nice place) but I maybe I could offer a few objective comments.

1.Why do some people expect to move to another country and expect everything to operate in exactly in the same way it does in their native country?
I don't see that attitude in the hundreds of thousands of east Europeans in the UK who have learnt adapted and thrived.

2.Why would you migrate to a country and not bother to learn the language ? I've experience teaching TEFAL in the UK. Migrants to the UK jump through hoops to learn English,a far more difficult language to master thanItalian.

3.Do they think that someone moving into a rural area in the UK from 'up country' with loads of cash,chasing some buccolic dream isnt at risk from the odd unscrupulous local,I,ve lived in Cornwall,trust me they are.
Lets be honest,people are people,be careful,lighten up.If everything compares so badly to the UK why move?

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old jerry..well put... i think most complaints that originate here are aimed at the sort of professional rip offs.. people that know what they are doing to whom .. and what the result will be.. less organised and less planned accidents of life i think we will all let go by to a degree and just put it down to experience

experience learned in Abruzzo though is often tainted by the initial phase of house buying and the lack of openness /honesty in that area which then prejudices all our views for the future... spoiling often what was to be our dream relocation and new life far earlier on than expected...

my thoughts are we can all learn from mistakes but fraudulent and dishonest behavior by certain people that have moved here and then take advantage of others trying to do the same is an unjustifiable in any degree and just leads to a bad name for this region ..

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I'm not sure as a newcomer to this forum that I should be commenting on this area(Abbruzzo) that I know little about(though Chieti is a hell of a nice place) but I maybe I could offer a few objective comments.

1.Why do some people expect to move to another country and expect everything to operate in exactly in the same way it does in their native country?
I don't see that attitude in the hundreds of thousands of east Europeans in the UK who have learnt adapted and thrived.

2.Why would you migrate to a country and not bother to learn the language ? I've experience teaching TEFAL in the UK. Migrants to the UK jump through hoops to learn English,a far more difficult language to master thanItalian.

3.Do they think that someone moving into a rural area in the UK from 'up country' with loads of cash,chasing some buccolic dream isnt at risk from the odd unscrupulous local,I,ve lived in Cornwall,trust me they are.
Lets be honest,people are people,be careful,lighten up.If everything compares so badly to the UK why move?
People who move for economic reasons have different motivations to those of us who move abroad after working all their lives and are now able to self support themselves wherever they choose to live.

As a teacher I would expect you to understand that a 25 year old graduate from Sofia will find it easier to adapt and learn a language than someone who is in their late 50's or early 60's who moves to Abruzzo or elsewhere on retiring. Economic need is a great motivator.

Most people who move abroad (myself included) try very hard to learn the language, so I think your comments are unfair. I have lived in three European countries and have studied the language in all of them.

This thread was discussion about moving to Abruzzo, and if you are financially secure and self supporting you should be able to consider all points relating to an area when you make your decision where to relocate - after all, it is a choice you are free to make - provided you have all the information!!!!

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perhaps it depends on how keen you are to integrate into the particular country you move to. i speak italian but really don't ever expect to integrate into italian culture despite having been married to an italian a long time ago for over 20 years. it's a different culture you're never going to be part of it but that doesn't stop you enjoying the wonderful country/sunshine/food etc., i don't agree that it depends on your age if you're keen to learn you can do this whether you are 20 or 70. what does seem to make a difference is that couples rely on one of them to communicate the other usually the woman takes a back seat and never learns the language or to be independant.......hang on perhaps this applies whether it's england/scotland/italy/france!!!!!

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old jerry..well put... i think most complaints that originate here are aimed at the sort of professional rip offs.. people that know what they are doing to whom .. and what the result will be.. less organised and less planned accidents of life i think we will all let go by to a degree and just put it down to experience

experience learned in Abruzzo though is often tainted by the initial phase of house buying and the lack of openness /honesty in that area which then prejudices all our views for the future... spoiling often what was to be our dream relocation and new life far earlier on than expected...

my thoughts are we can all learn from mistakes but fraudulent and dishonest behavior by certain people that have moved here and then take advantage of others trying to do the same is an unjustifiable in any degree and just leads to a bad name for this region ..
I reckon thats a very balanced response to some views that came from the heart rather than the head.An inate distrust of estate agents and their ilk,of any country, creed,nationality,gender age etc. has got to be sensible.
I really do think however that if you choose to live somewhere you are morally duty bound to learn the language,(asylum seekers in the UK are legally required to whatever their age).Anyhow you cant possibly appreciate the true culture of a country without the language.
And its easy,I've taught TEFL but I'm no great linguist(pig farmer by trade!)but 30 mins a day on a language course eg.BBC online and in acouple of months you'll have enough to converse and then you improve exponentially,and Italian is easy,try learning Welsh!

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Hello, I have a home in Abruzzo and found the whole process extremely straight forward, I read all sorts of horror stories but think we were lucky and bought our house from a lovely family. I would be happy to talk to you about out experience, either by direct general questions on this forum or if you have worked out yet how we could correspond more privately can give you more specific info!

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