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Hi Shaka I have just posted re retiring to Italy but we are also contemplating Ireland, are we mad? We left Northern Ireland in the early 70s and are now Australian Citizens and would love to retire to either Italy or Ireland.

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I know Introdacqua pretty well as I have several good friends there and have visited a number of times. Very friendly town. There is expat community of about three dozen anglophone families so you will find plenty of support even without knowledge of Italian. You are wise to be cautious. You will probably want a car in Introdacqua which gets back to your question of residency and health insurance. Without too much difficulty, you can find furnished Abruzzo rentals for about 500 euros/month or so. My plan would be to pick a slightly larger town with better transportation ties (probably nearby Sulmona), rent a place for 3 months or so, then see how you like it and where you want to go from there. The Brits near me who seem to be having troubles are the ones who bought relatively cheaply 5-10 years ago or so but now find themselves undercapitalized and with a weak income stream.
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Many thanks Stefanaccio for your words of wisdom. When you see a couple of nice properties it is difficult to pull away though we see the sense in being nearer transport. We tend to go 'all in' as sometimes 'playing safe' tends to encourage one to run back without giving it your best shot. Having said that we will take your advice on board. Thanks!

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My husband and I have been contemplating moving/retiring to Italy (we are in our 60s) and have seen a property in Introdacqua which very much appeals. We are waiting to sell our property here in Australia and in the meantime we have been thinking..thinking..thinking if this is the right thing to do. We will be living on our pension (with a little more in the bank). Our main concern is not speaking Italian (though we are determined to learn) and having to deal with normal day-to-day stuff and also my husband loves to drive and although we can start off with an International Driving Permit we will in the end have to obtain an Italian licence which will mean, of course, taking the test both theory and practical in Italian. I believe due to a reciprocal agreement we can be covered by the Italian health system but unfortunately it appears that no private health insurer will cover people over 65. Also there is the question of Abruzzo being an earthquake area and I also understand that one cannot insure for earthquakes and apparently Italians do not insure their homes. We also do not want to be isolated we want to be close to some colour and movement with easy access to cafes, restaurants, etc. Any advice anyone can give will be most appreciated. We know many people are leaving Italy and are we wise to even contemplate retiring to Italy? Ciao!

What do you intend to do? Some people are happy being home people. Others want to travel. Some like beaches. Some like mountains. Define what you intend to do in retirement.

1) Wander over to Google maps and start planning out trips. Start with routine stuff like going to the shops. Work your way out to day trips etc. Understand the google times can be on the low side if traffic or weather happen. What may seem okay today might end up too far the older you get so factor that in.

2) Health care. I don't think Aussies have any special treatment. Being Aussies you'll need visas which will require health care.

3) Income depends totally on your lifestyle. You can live on virtually nothing or you can run out of money very easily. You can budget for food by checking the various grocery store websites. Coop and Conad both have websites showing the weekly sales . Take the time to check the prices.

4) You can get insurance. The problem prices may make it prohibitive. Abruzzo ranges from very high quake risk to low. Closer to the coast will be lower then the Apennines .

5) A lack of Italian can be a problem in emergency situations. Day to day you can likely get by just fine. Middle of the night if a pipe breaks and you try and call the plumper.

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Many thanks Stefanaccio for your words of wisdom. When you see a couple of nice properties it is difficult to pull away though we see the sense in being nearer transport. We tend to go 'all in' as sometimes 'playing safe' tends to encourage one to run back without giving it your best shot. Having said that we will take your advice on board. Thanks!
hi why tuck your selves behind a mountane when you can be in frount of it looking at the Adriatic with the shelter of the mountane behind you good beaches 20 mins away airport 25 mins away ski 15 mins low eathqaike risk good roads very good .
have you thought of looking the sea side of the mailelta in the chieti region *central you will be supresed how buitiful and how good the super structure is

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Again, good advice. Will take on board. Thanks

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Will take a look - thanks.

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Hi Shaka I have just posted re retiring to Italy but we are also contemplating Ireland, are we mad? We left Northern Ireland in the early 70s and are now Australian Citizens and would love to retire to either Italy or Ireland.
You know that a hard one. I think it really depends on how you want to spend you're retirement. We have lived in Hawaii for over 20yrs now and are from Ireland but we have decided to retire to Italy.

Our decision is based on how we see ourselves spending our retirement.
We will be relatively near family v many many hours away, family can visit us and vice versa. Italy has great weather for the most part and not as unpredictable as Ireland. Italian family life and traditions remind me of Ireland so no strange culture shock. Accessibility by car and rail to the rest of Europe , no planes or boat involved unless you chose to. Great health care and affordable private health insurance compared to the premiums we now pay in the US.Cost of living for general day to day is cheaper than the Us and probably cheaper than Ireland except for the price of gas. If you love Italy as we do then whatever speaks to your heart is the way I would go. House prices in Italy have not seen the major drops that Ireland has experienced and I suppose it also depends on which part of Ireland you are considering retiring too. City life v rural life is never the same in any one country so do some soul searching and fact gathering and then choose whether people think your decision is mad or not
We bought a village house in Abruzzo over the internet sight unseen until we went to Italy to close the sale. Yes it was a risk but the people we met at the realtors office are long distance friends now and although our little town house is not big enough to retire too it introduced us to Abruzzo/Le Marche and this area is definitely where we want to retire too. Think of it as a big adventure rent first in a few different areas and see.
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Good response!!!!

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Thanks 'Guys' for all your very valuable comments. My next question refers to Health Insurance Cover. From what I have read it appears that one must have private health insurance before you can enter Italy. We are in our 60s and have got online quotes form BUPA - As Australian citizens quote was in excess of AUD17,000.00 annually and if we go in as British citizens quote was GBP10,000.00. Horrendous! From these figures it appears our dream has burned out before we have started. Can anyone confirm this is correct that we cannot enter Italy to obtain residency without private health insurance cover? From what I can gather this is correct but cannot find anyone to talk this over face to face who knows the actually situation. Your comments will be appreciated. Cheers

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