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Old 20th January 2020, 09:58 AM
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I used to live in Naples many moons ago but made a Faustian bargain to go back to the UK for work reasons 20 years ago, but always wanted to live in S Europe in the long term....

Now the battle has been lost I am fairly convinced that if I want to live in the EU in future I need to move there before the end of 2020. I haven't done this so far because my work teaching English in Italy is going to be a whole lot less lucrative and rewarding than my job here in England.

But time seems to have come to bite that bullet. I intend to sell my house here and buy a smaller one, renting it out but keeping a room for myself to use from time to time. I have rental income from a flat here, and will hopefully have more from the smaller house I intend to buy. I'm 55 so will presumably leave my pension inactive until I need it. I will initially rent in Spain rather than buy - there's no special reason to buy right now, as I will presumably need to work in a city and would rather buy in a village. I am likely to be moving in autumn 2020, probably to Italy.

My question:

The only work likely to be available for me is EFL teaching in private academies. I did this for many years and have qualifications (though unused for these 20 years).
1. I have seen that almost all jobs now demand an EU passport. Obviously I will have one during 2020, but what happens when I need to get a new contract for the 2021-2 academic year?
2. Teaching jobs of this kind hardly ever generate more than a nine-month contract. How will this affect my residency rights? Is a permanent contract required?


Many thanks for any advice :-)

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Are you going to Spain or Italy OR is it either?

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Not sure yet. I've lived in both and love both. And the issue now is to get into the EU, no?

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Sorry, but your post above was saying both!
For Italy, I would be surprised if they did not want up to date qualifications and getting work is generally difficult. I think the EU passport will be a problem. I don't think the 9 months is an issue at all.
Have you looked into taking your pension early?

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Most schools are going to want mother tongue teachers. Right now that's UK and Ireland if limited to EU. Obviously afterwards they'll either need to switch to accepting UK workers (along with North Americans and ANZ) or depend on only Irish workers.

THe problem I see is would a nine month contract pay you enough to get residence?

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No issue with qualifications. I have far better ones than most of the competition, and there's always demand for English classes. I know the EFL industry - worked in it for 15 years!

The EU passport is indeed a bigger issue. Though there will be a lot of vacancies going if they suddenly can't employ Brits - just not enough Irish to go round!

Leaving work aside...What is the situation in Italy assuming I were to "retire" (though I probably don't have enough money to do this right now)? I guess they are asking for proof of income and private healthcare, as in Spain?

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Most schools are going to want mother tongue teachers. Right now that's UK and Ireland if limited to EU. Obviously afterwards they'll either need to switch to accepting UK workers (along with North Americans and ANZ) or depend on only Irish workers.

THe problem I see is would a nine month contract pay you enough to get residence?
Thanks, Nick.

Yes. Given that most such teachers currently are Brits currently and there are only a few million Irish, I would imagine they may have to make some kind of exception here, assuming that middle-class Italian parents won't be too thrilled with having Polish or Romanian (or indeed Italian) English teachers.

I would have other income from rentals in UK - but why should residency cost money as such? My worry with the (inevitable) none-month contracts is that they may demand a continuous work contract?

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At the moment you get in as a UK citizen, would need around 6-8k (can’t recall exactly how much) per year income. Yes, you would officially need health insurance (we were never asked for it), but in a number of regions you can pay voluntary contributions, again I can’t recall the exact amount, but it was well under 1k per year (maybe under 400?). No one knows how it will pan out with Brexit, but I reckon at worst you would have to apply yearly to stay.
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At the moment you get in as a UK citizen, would need around 6-8k (canít recall exactly how much) per year income. Yes, you would officially need health insurance (we were never asked for it), but in a number of regions you can pay voluntary contributions, again I canít recall the exact amount, but it was well under 1k per year (maybe under 400?). No one knows how it will pan out with Brexit, but I reckon at worst you would have to apply yearly to stay.
Thanks a lot for the info. So yes, it does sound a lot better than Spain in these respects.

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