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Old 31st July 2019, 02:33 AM
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So I am in the early stages of applying for my citizenship by descent. The lawyer in Italy told me there are two ways I can go about it (1) Apply through the consulate in my country (2) Come to Italy to live and apply from there, which is much faster.

I was confused about option 2 so asked him if I just come on a 90-day stay and hope the citizenship is granted before the 90 days runs out. He replied as follows: :there is no 90 days limit since you become Italian resident and can stay as much as you want. Once you have recognized the citizenship you can travel back to your own country

I'm wondering how that works. Don't want to keep asking the lawyer questions at this stage since I have not engaged him formally yet, don't want to be a pest.

Anybody with any insights into how this option might work? I'm sure you can't just turn up at Italian immigration and say you are a resident and they say "OK" and stamp your passport with no time limit. I am currently a EU passport holder (UK) although resident in Australia.

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If you have an UK passport there is no 90 day limit. At least not at the moment.

Have you actually talked to your consulate? How long is the waiting list? If you have all your paperwork the consulate will be quicker not slower . Unless your paperwork isn't from Australia?
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I haven't contacted the consulate yet, still in the process of getting all the documents which mostly will be sourced from the UK. My grandfather's birth and marriage paperwork will have to be sourced from Italy, hence the lawyer.

I'll probably apply through the consulate in Sydney. No idea what the waiting list is like but can't imagine it will be that long, maybe three months or so?

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You don't need a lawyer to get birth or marriage records. If you know all dates and names you could write the town and ask for them.

If OTOH you're coming you could always just walk into the office. Small towns this isn't that hard. Large centres the lines might be daunting.

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Can't speak for the consulate-general in Sydney but our experiences with the one in Melbourne have been very positive. Nothing like the horror stories you read.

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Unless there is something I've not read about applying for citizenship, I think 90 days is an issue as after that time if an EU citizen you would need to apply for residency to stay longer. I suspect that's what the lawyer is really saying.

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No I think the lawyer is talking about the 90 day visa waiver. But either way it's not a huge issue at the moment. The OP seems to be an UK national. At worst they'd have to fulfill the residency requirements.

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Thanks for all your replies. I will most likely be applying through the consulate. I think the hard part will be finding the Italian paperwork as my ancestor's details are a bit sketchy. But I'm working on it and sure I will get there eventually.

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Thanks for all your replies. I will most likely be applying through the consulate. I think the hard part will be finding the Italian paperwork as my ancestor's details are a bit sketchy. But I'm working on it and sure I will get there eventually.
To what country did your ancestor immigrate?

If Australia, my recollection is that the Australia National Archives have very good records, searchable online.

Start here National Archives of Australia and just type "immigration" in the search box.

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Thanks for all your replies. I will most likely be applying through the consulate. I think the hard part will be finding the Italian paperwork as my ancestor's details are a bit sketchy. But I'm working on it and sure I will get there eventually.
To what country did your ancestor immigrate?

If Australia, my recollection is that the Australia National Archives have very good records, searchable online.

Start here National Archives of Australia and just type "immigration" in the search box.
My grandfather emigrated to the UK ending up in Scotland. Imagine, leaving the Amalfi coast for a life in Dundee? But the world was a different place at that time and I guess events and circumstances dictated the path that he took.

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