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Old 23rd January 2018, 04:34 PM
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Hi all....Just wanted to say hello, and that my wife and I are really looking forward to learning from you all, as we soon hope to make our dream a reality by moving permanently from the Uk to Italy.
We are a normally couple with moderate and realistic expectations of what we will face in the year ahead, and really wanted to tap into all the experience that is out there.
It is just the 2 of us, but we do have animals that will come with us, so hearing about the complexities of moving them too would be good.

The first thing that i would like to ask is the first step people think we should take, eg, making contact with an Italian Consulate in the UK, to seek their advise, and try and apply for residency??
We do have people we know in Italy after many scouting trips (although we have yet to find the right home for us) but they have either lived in Italy all their lives, or moved many years ago, so I would really value some experiences from people who have moved in the last few years, so things are still fresh, and possibly still work the same way (we have been told many times things change frequently in Italy!!)

Any advise would be brilliant

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Hi all....Just wanted to say hello, and that my wife and I are really looking forward to learning from you all, as we soon hope to make our dream a reality by moving permanently from the Uk to Italy.
We are a normally couple with moderate and realistic expectations of what we will face in the year ahead, and really wanted to tap into all the experience that is out there.
It is just the 2 of us, but we do have animals that will come with us, so hearing about the complexities of moving them too would be good.

The first thing that i would like to ask is the first step people think we should take, eg, making contact with an Italian Consulate in the UK, to seek their advise, and try and apply for residency??
We do have people we know in Italy after many scouting trips (although we have yet to find the right home for us) but they have either lived in Italy all their lives, or moved many years ago, so I would really value some experiences from people who have moved in the last few years, so things are still fresh, and possibly still work the same way (we have been told many times things change frequently in Italy!!)

Any advise would be brilliant

Thanks in advance
Steve & Amanda
Hi Guys,

First and foremost welcome to the forum.

What sort of advice are you looking for? Really the questions need to be quite specific for us to jump in and help out. What sort of area are you looking to go to? Do you have any links to Italy? Heritage etc?

Will you be staying all year around or seasonal? I know you said permanently but if you plan to vacation out of Italy for long periods you may not need to change your residency.

Haven't moved pets myself but I am sure they will have to have their vaccinations up to date and will require a "pet passport".

With regards to residency you will need to know where you are going before applying for residency. You will need to prove you can support yourselves and have healthcare. If you have no Italian links i.e. heritage, marriage etc you will need a permesso di soggiorno before your residency.

Should be enough their to get you started

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Hi Steve & Amanda and a big welcome to your wonderful adventure. I'll go with Kenzo and add to take it slowly, do what you have started here by getting advice/information. List the big things as you go and stick notes against them on what you find e.g. residency, taxation, currency movement etc... There was a lot of good information on the web when we were looking to move a few years ago on things like "what cost are involved in buying in Italy".
Whilst still here in the UK there is still lots you can do finding the above information, looking at houses and even viewing (kind of) by using the likes of Google street view for a virtual tour.
What area(s) are you looking for , what life style, what is your Italian like, will you leave the UK totally, if not how do you intend to get back and forward i.e. to/from the airport etc... Lots to think of, but it's all part of the journey... and Enjoy !
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There isn't much the consulate can do for you. In theory you could apply for your codice fiscale at the consulate (tax number) but it'll be easier to get once you arrive here.

Residence is something you apply for in the town. Depending on how the consulate is laid out they might not even let you into some sections without an Italian passport.

The steps I'd suggest

1) Define what you hope to do once you've moved. Work? Beach bum? Skier? Cultural fan? Homebody? World traveler?

2) Think about which area fits that hope best. Some areas have more work. Others have better beaches or ski slopes. The cultural cities are obvious. If you intend to travel then make sure you won't find travel a pain. Better to be near an airport and major train station . A four hour drive to a major airport will be a pain.

3) Housing budget. Both in the sense of € but also in the sense of space. You've mentioned animals. If that means large outdoor animals that's different then a tiny little purse dog. You may want to live in the centre of Rome over looking the Spanish steps but that's a different budget then mine -)

4) Start looking for a rental. Come over and spend some time as a tourist . Try to do the things you've decided on in step one.
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Hi guys. I'll add to the welcome to the forum and also Italy. I will speak to your pet issue as that is what we are intimately familiar with. We just moved here (US) and traveled with our dog. I will give you facts from our adventure and allow you to draw conclusions. We applied for and received citizenship through ancestry which took two years, but we didn't want to wait for approval to come here so we arrived via the tourist route. I did a tremendous amount of research regarding our dog. We received a lot of info from this forum about getting into Italy with our dog, so accurate some not so much. This is what we experienced. Left New York via Alitalia as they are one of a shrinking number of airlines that don't require a professional shipper (very expensive). There were no problems. Arrived Rome expecting to be asked to produce health docs, but no one seemed to care. A porter went to a room picked him up and we were gone. We had to leave after 3 months and ventured to the UK. Much more difficult. Stayed 4 months and back here. Got his UK passport from a UK vet. Leaving the UK was much easier as we had his passport and updated shots (rabies). Flew Alitalia again (Heathrow-Rome direct), got to Rome encountered the same situation, no one asked for anything and we were on our way. Sorry this took so many key strokes just wanted to give context. Bottom line, have current EU passport (Alitalia checked @ Heathrow). British Airways will require you to use their commercial services; expensive.
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Thanks so much for your welcome, and advise. We are planning on moving lock stock and barrel to Italy, and not go back to England very often. We are planning to fully retire and spend time at our home, raising animals and growing our own fruit and vegetables. We are wanting to be on the edge of a small town, and really be part of the local culture helping with local activities and festivals. Our Italian is coming on quite well, we have over 500 words and get by on holidays really well. We are hoping for nice mountain views, without being so close , as the weather seems to cling to them!
Renting a property is good advise too, but we think we have time to find somewhere and get the job done before our planned move date of next Feb 2019...How long did the whole buying process take from offer to ownership?
Hope to speak again soon
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Thanks so much for your welcome, and advise. We are planning on moving lock stock and barrel to Italy, and not go back to England very often. We are planning to fully retire and spend time at our home, raising animals and growing our own fruit and vegetables. We are wanting to be on the edge of a small town, and really be part of the local culture helping with local activities and festivals. Our Italian is coming on quite well, we have over 500 words and get by on holidays really well. We are hoping for nice mountain views, without being so close , as the weather seems to cling to them!
Renting a property is good advise too, but we think we have time to find somewhere and get the job done before our planned move date of next Feb 2019...How long did the whole buying process take from offer to ownership?
Hope to speak again soon
Steve & Amanda
Well if Sicily interests you I would be happy to give lots of advice (Although I have already given some out on a recent thread so it would mostly be repeating myself!)

In terms of the Mainland as far as this forum is concerned I believe there is a little concentration of posters around Abruzzo and Bologna. Have you got your heart set on anywhere in particular?

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Th.How long did the whole buying process take from offer to ownership?
If it's simple. One owner selling. No mortgage to deal with. If it's simple it can be done in weeks. Or less.

BUT DON'T RUSH. Take your time. You're buying until death do you part. Make sure the house you buy is worth the commitment.
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If it's simple. One owner selling. No mortgage to deal with. If it's simple it can be done in weeks. Or less.

BUT DON'T RUSH. Take your time. You're buying until death do you part. Make sure the house you buy is worth the commitment.
This is very true, buying a property in Italy is the easy part. Selling it will be nigh on impossible due to the economic situation of the country. Be sure you do your research and the property is up to 'code'.

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We would be looking to buy a home to live in until we could no longer manage it (hopefully many years into the future) so understand that we might have to move in 30 years having not sold the one we’re living in. We have factored this in to our budget, hence why we want to keep the cost of the house down below €150k.
In terms of area , we really love Le Marche around Amandola, Sarnano and Servigliano lake Fiastra etc, but know these are in the “red zone” when it comes to potential earth quakes etc... it might sound daft but this doesn’t totally put us off moving there. Peace and quiet, nature and animals are our thing, so being close to Florence isn’t a problem, nor being an hour away from an airport worries us. We want the seasons still, but want to enjoy a much warmer/outdoors lifestyle than in the uk.
Really value your help/advise....its so helpful.

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