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FlowerFairy5457 5th August 2014 11:11 AM

After reading Janie's comments on Pelion and Milina, we have had a quick 'squizzy' and it looks the ideal region for us! We have lived in Australia for 40-odd years and are ready to retire to somewhere else while there is still some life in us! As Australia and Greece have a reciprocal agreement re aged pension (i.e. we can receive our Australian pension while in Greece) and also it appears simple to exchange our driving licences for a Greek one without having to re-sit a driving test. Our main concern now is the health care (or lack thereof). We explored private health care (e.g. BUPA) and we would have to take out a mortgage to pay for it! In excess of USD22,000.00 per year!!!!! I mean they have got to be joking! Does anyone know if one becomes a resident of Greece (we have dual Australian/British citizenship so can come in on our British passport if necessary) can one link in to the private Greek health care or even IKA at a reasonable premium per year? Health care is the one thing that is worrying us and may be the biggest fly in the ointment.

concertina 5th August 2014 06:47 PM

health care in greece
 
Bupa is known to be crazy prices,greece has General and Alliance,check their prices,my husband works at athens airport and it insures some staff under Allianze and General,you must remember greece has everywhere private clinics that are very reasonably priced,all the test you want,mamagrams,smears,CAT scans,MRI etc...not so expensive,your main concern needs to be the possibility of any surgery required which you would want to go privately I can assure you.You would not be entitled to state health care,but there are private surgeons everywhere,they work in private hospitals all day and have private clinics in the evenings,I recently had a small growth taken off of my head and stitched up,growth inspected in the lab,150 euro,my digital mamagram was 60,smear was 30,I have a great gynee female private doctor,consultation and internal ultra sound scan of the uterus was 60 ,I do have IKA but if I have the money I go it on my own,Dont be scared,all is possible,you just got to check things out,the thing is very often you can say to a private surgeon......can we use a cheaper hospital please so that the insurance company doesnt go ape on me,Allianze paid out 18.000 for an op for me,we had to lie and say we were paying ourselves because private hospitals charge loads more if you tell them that you have private cover,they basically rip off the private medical companies which in turn makes your policy more expensive every year,so watch that.

manuka 23rd October 2015 03:01 PM

I really enjoyed catching up on this thread while also reading the 'driving to Greece' thread. both of these threads started in 2009 and I am curious to know how you are all getting on? the whole world is probably now aware of the problems in Greece. How has this affected you all, who retired here? We are currently in the Peloponnese on holiday for3 weeks.we really would like to retire here.we would long term rent if we did retire here and use our rent on our house in UK which would bring around monthly 600 . Could this cover rent here do you think,I am hoping with some left over! How do electric,water rates etc compare to UK and have they risen since you first lived here? We need to work a bit longer to establish some hope of retiring here I think. I am a tutor in UK having retired as a teacher, and am not hopeful of finding any pupils here in the current economic climate in Greece but maybe there are still some well off folks who might want their children coached to communicate in perfect english? :juggle: do you think? Yes I'd certainly need to earn something if we came to live here. Please share if you are expat in Greece how things have developed now for you. Thanks ,Jacquie

concertina 24th October 2015 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by manuka (Post 8541562)
I really enjoyed catching up on this thread while also reading the 'driving to Greece' thread. both of these threads started in 2009 and I am curious to know how you are all getting on? the whole world is probably now aware of the problems in Greece. How has this affected you all, who retired here? We are currently in the Peloponnese on holiday for3 weeks.we really would like to retire here.we would long term rent if we did retire here and use our rent on our house in UK which would bring around monthly 600 . Could this cover rent here do you think,I am hoping with some left over! How do electric,water rates etc compare to UK and have they risen since you first lived here? We need to work a bit longer to establish some hope of retiring here I think. I am a tutor in UK having retired as a teacher, and am not hopeful of finding any pupils here in the current economic climate in Greece but maybe there are still some well off folks who might want their children coached to communicate in perfect english? :juggle: do you think? Yes I'd certainly need to earn something if we came to live here. Please share if you are expat in Greece how things have developed now for you. Thanks ,Jacquie

I am not retired here but have been here many years and can answer some of your questions.You would find it difficult to find private teaching work here,I know that Greek English teachers are desperate to find teaching in Frontasterias(evening schools) for various subjects.I used to teach privately conversation at home before the crisis but not now,they wont or cant pay,the lower I go on price per hour,still they say no,so I refuse to do it for nothing.You must remember that most Greeks speak English and are mostly the English teachers here,people dont care about it not being the mother tongue of the teacher here or the pronunciation,they just need to speak or write English.Even at the Frontasterias Greeks earn a pittance,the good old days of Greece have gone and if you come to the cities you will see the true extent of the dire situation here,people here do not run around with a hat on which says,Im desperate,Im hungry,I have no job or I am being exploited to death on 2 euro an hour,well actually less than that as I know many people on five euro a day and they thank God for small mercies.they are just flies buzzing about in their own world,seemingly to an on-looker like someone who is OK but actually far from it and even the well- off folks have pulled back in fear of the next assault on their pockets.So only come here if you can make it financially on the monies you will have coming in away from employment.If you are careful how much you pay for your rent,like 200 or 250,something with a garden for a few veggies,but the street food markets are real cheap especially at near closing time,you will be able to make it here but with care and perhaps that will require a change of lifestyle and mentality but the rewards of living here would certainly be well worth it.Try to definatly find a rental place which has a solar hot water panel,save you lots of money,save your grey waste water for the garden and the rain water off the roof,try to rent a small house so that your bills are autonomous,your main concern must be your health-care.I did see a expat on here,a member say that he gets a Greek public health book entitlement because he has a British(EU)pension which completely covers him here so scroll down to read this.You can have a good life here if you plan well and show restraint with your style of living.

manuka 25th October 2015 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by concertina (Post 8547050)
I am not retired here but have been here many years and can answer some of your questions.You would find it difficult to find private teaching work here,I know that Greek English teachers are desperate to find teaching in Frontasterias(evening schools) for various subjects.I used to teach privately conversation at home before the crisis but not now,they wont or cant pay,the lower I go on price per hour,still they say no,so I refuse to do it for nothing.You must remember that most Greeks speak English and are mostly the English teachers here,people dont care about it not being the mother tongue of the teacher here or the pronunciation,they just need to speak or write English.Even at the Frontasterias Greeks earn a pittance,the good old days of Greece have gone and if you come to the cities you will see the true extent of the dire situation here,people here do not run around with a hat on which says,Im desperate,Im hungry,I have no job or I am being exploited to death on 2 euro an hour,well actually less than that as I know many people on five euro a day and they thank God for small mercies.they are just flies buzzing about in their own world,seemingly to an on-looker like someone who is OK but actually far from it and even the well- off folks have pulled back in fear of the next assault on their pockets.So only come here if you can make it financially on the monies you will have coming in away from employment.If you are careful how much you pay for your rent,like 200 or 250,something with a garden for a few veggies,but the street food markets are real cheap especially at near closing time,you will be able to make it here but with care and perhaps that will require a change of lifestyle and mentality but the rewards of living here would certainly be well worth it.Try to definatly find a rental place which has a solar hot water panel,save you lots of money,save your grey waste water for the garden and the rain water off the roof,try to rent a small house so that your bills are autonomous,your main concern must be your health-care.I did see a expat on here,a member say that he gets a Greek public health book entitlement because he has a British(EU)pension which completely covers him here so scroll down to read this.You can have a good life here if you plan well and show restraint with your style of living.

Thank you for your honest response and for taking the time. My husband is Polish and we have had some conversations while here about the struggles they went through when Poland was in crisis.he does remember people being desperate and working a week for the equivalent of 15euros and shops being bare.Still they got through and the Greeks will surely find a way too. here in the Peloponnese it seems people have their gardens full ofveg and fruit I notice since last year so extensions to the little farms and some cows being kept on one- just 5/6 but still enterprising.. onstruction seems to be going ahead now.Greeks busy on them working.We went to methoni yesterday. the archeological repairs and restructuring is going well.so this has heartened us for the Greeks we see here. There are 2 supermarkets. They have their family working in one totally.the young have restructed and modernised the aisles and can explain everything in perfect English and also understand anything you say in English. Plus they are full of energy and happy.so a good place to go. If I came here I think I'd go home in July august to teach a course and get some money to bring back. Was chilly in this lovely apartment last few days so, be good to have house with a fire place working for sure.the solar panels too! I wonder if the people who wrote from 2009 and who came are still in Greece?

concertina 26th October 2015 08:53 PM

Manuka hi,yes you have right the Greek people are turning back to the land with small holdings,where we have our cottage a guy has 3 cows and just added a bull and sheep,people let him cut all the grass on their land for hay and straw,it saves them tending to the land because they mostly live in Athens.We buy fresh milk from him for just one euro fifty for one and half litre and boil it up.We also buy free range eggs at 30 cents each.I used to always go back to the UK in July and August as I found those months too hot for me but now cant afford to do so,but you having work would be good,even if you paid 3.50 for a house you would still have change from your English rent.I wish all to work out for you,let us know with some up-dates.

manuka 27th October 2015 09:51 AM

Thanks. Concertina.and good luck too you as well.:-)


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