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Old 27th December 2018, 11:58 AM
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I also lived in Germany for a while and have observed where laws and administrative practices are similar (and different) between the countries and throughout the EU. It's not up to us here on the forum to determine the legality (or not) of things that forum members are proposing or asking about.

Plenty of folks here on the forum have suggested to people looking to marry Germans that they should go to Denmark instead. Whether the new procedures for weeding out fake marriages will work is anyone's guess at this point. But even if you're perfectly legally and legitimately married, there isn't necessarily the right for your non-German spouse to obtain a visa or residence documents based solely on the fact of the marriage. (That seems to be the case in most countries these days.) I believe you were the one to point this out earlier in the thread.

Regardless of the motivations or arrangements for the marriage, I think Amie is going to run afoul of various suspicions and red flags that the situation offers. OTOH, I'm all for treating her inquiries as being sincere questions rather than some sort of nefarious attempt to break the law.

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I totally agree with AKLB. The days are gone, thank God, when neighbors are punting yet other people who weren't married to each other. In Germany we didn't get Moralpolizei or Sharia yet.

The law is primarily intended to prevent uncontrolled people from non-EU countries from becoming settled in Germany and letting their families (large families) follow.
But it is hardly applicable when two people who like each other (I'm not talking about love) want to get married and settle in Germany.

Example: I could marry my "niece " although we do not love each other.
(We are not blood-related) This is how she and her children would be beyond my death supplied.

On the other hand I got a friend who used to live 'n work in Munich until he has been retired. Than suddenly he moved to US and married a woman. Never did he talk about her to me..Love ?? I 'm in doubt.

btw. Marriages in DK are possible in 2019
https://toender.dk/citizen/getting-m...ed?language=en


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I'm all for treating her inquiries as being sincere questions rather than some sort of nefarious attempt to break the law.
She actually comes across as sincere and very naive to me, which is why I find it so upsetting that you are providing her so much inaccurate information. Although I don't believe there is any malice on your part, I do find it very irresponsible.

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Example: I could marry my "niece " although we do not love each other.
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You mean a Versorgungsehe?

https://www.deutsche-rentenversicher...cms_lv3=217680

Although I realise that it is still possible to get married in Denmark, it will not necessarily still be fast for foreigners (especially those who entering into sham marriages).

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She actually comes across as sincere and very naive to me, which is why I find it so upsetting that you are providing her so much inaccurate information. Although I don't believe there is any malice on your part, I do find it very irresponsible.
If you want me to be brutally honest, I would have advised of those difficulties if I thought this was a serious plan. But when marriage in Denmark is not possible because of dog-sitting challenges, nor has a trip to visit ever been undertaken, then it's not really a serious plan.

Also depending on the nature of the relationship I wouldn't call this purely a scam marriage, if it's two people caring for one another. Also I don't know how vigilant the authorities are when US or Canadian passports are involved. I won't name names but I do have a friend or two who have married when they otherwise would not have because of residence permits.

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She actually comes across as sincere and very naive to me, which is why I find it so upsetting that you are providing her so much inaccurate information. Although I don't believe there is any malice on your part, I do find it very irresponsible.
I don't see where she has been given inaccurate information. What people have been doing is pointing out the problems with the plan as it is. We're really not in a position here to say "do this and you will succeed." Mostly, our job here is to point out problems or matters where it might do well to reconsider your approach or to do further research.

Amie has another query in over on the French forum, where the main issue is that she doesn't have a "reason" for living in France - other than perhaps to study, though there are some issues with that approach, too.

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You mean a Versorgungsehe?

https://www.deutsche-rentenversicher...cms_lv3=217680

Although I realise that it is still possible to get married in Denmark, it will not necessarily still be fast for foreigners (especially those who entering into sham marriages).
OMG like small-minded you have to be ...

Ohh, just read my horoscope: don't feed trolls.

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just watched a report in German TV about Marriage in Denmark, from Aero Island.
The reason for a change of process shall be a more centralized registering to the Government in Copenhagen. Actual only the regional comune administration do register.
Bit more beaurocracy.
Fi. a couple from London, both Argentines, came to Aero comune for marriage because it takes a long time in UK to get all papers.

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