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It's a couple of years away but my wife & I are looking to move to northern france (normandy & brittany) in the future. So to get the ball rolling and to answer some question, I thought I would join and start to ask / gather information.

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* As a EU national (British), can we just 'pick up sticks' and move to france and stay there without applying for residence.

* Where in our earlier 40's now so I would be still working when we do move to France. Fortunately for me, I would for a global company and I work for this company remotely (from home). So at the moment, I'm employed by the company in the UK but don't report to anybody in the UK as all the system (I work in IT) are based in Europe. If we move to France, I can easily move and be paid to one of offices in France, so for me, employment issues, wont be an issue but for my wife, who's a qualified teacher/lecturer in hairdressing in a 'FE' college, would she struggle to find work ?

* We are not looking to rent but to purchase a property in France. To be honest and with fingers crossed, we would be able to sell our property in the UK and buy outright a property in France but my question is, would it be possible now to obtain a mortgage (now), purchase the property and just to rent this property out or rent it out during the holiday periods.. If anybody has done this before, got experience of this, any information would be great.

* Is Brittany / Normandy a good area to live ? is there a particular area with a expat community. I'm currently learning French but I've read, having a expat community 'near by' helps in adjusting to french living.

For the time being, that it. Thanks in advance for any assistance / information.

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It's a couple of years away but my wife & I are looking to move to northern france (normandy & brittany) in the future. So to get the ball rolling and to answer some question, I thought I would join and start to ask / gather information.

So my questions are

* As a EU national (British), can we just 'pick up sticks' and move to france and stay there without applying for residence.
Yes - you have the right to live and work in EU countries

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* Where in our earlier 40's now so I would be still working when we do move to France. Fortunately for me, I would for a global company and I work for this company remotely (from home). So at the moment, I'm employed by the company in the UK but don't report to anybody in the UK as all the system (I work in IT) are based in Europe. If we move to France, I can easily move and be paid to one of offices in France, so for me, employment issues, wont be an issue but for my wife, who's a qualified teacher/lecturer in hairdressing in a 'FE' college, would she struggle to find work ?
If you are resident in France you will be required to file a French tax return on your world-wide income - being employed by a French company in France should get you into the French health care system and they should arrange all of this for you. If not, you will need private health insurance.

Your wife will find it very difficult to get work - there is massive unemployment in France and without being bilingual or having French qualifications it will be really tough.

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* We are not looking to rent but to purchase a property in France. To be honest and with fingers crossed, we would be able to sell our property in the UK and buy outright a property in France but my question is, would it be possible now to obtain a mortgage (now), purchase the property and just to rent this property out or rent it out during the holiday periods.. If anybody has done this before, got experience of this, any information would be great.
I don't know if you can get a mortgage in France, renting out a property can prove a challenge but I'll leave that to others with more knowledge. It must be a good time to buy though as I am having no luck in selling my house


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* Is Brittany / Normandy a good area to live ? is there a particular area with a expat community. I'm currently learning French but I've read, having a expat community 'near by' helps in adjusting to french living.
It will depend entirely on which part you move to - nearer the UK there are more expats - the area around Josselin (for example) is over-run with Brits, down here nearer the coast we have only met a few in two years and most own holiday homes and are not here all year. Ex-pat communities allow you to communciate and socialise with ex-pats but won't help much in adjusting to French living - for that you need French friends, neighbours etc.

Climate is slightly warmer than the UK, less cold in winter for example. Cost of living I can't comment on as I haven't lived in England for over 22 years.


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James, you're looking at a minefield!! Your company would have to pay French cotisations which are massive so you need to speak to them and see if they're prepared to do that. As for your wife, the answer would be a definite no. She would need to be totally fluent in French and have the equivalent of French teaching qualifications and jobs in écoles for hairdressing are really fought for and there will be a whole host of French qualified hairdressing teachers ahead of her. Sorry to sound negative. Do loads and loads of research before planning your move.
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One option to having your company pay you from their French payroll (with French cotisations of roughly 40% from their side) would be to set up your own business entity here in France and work remotely as a sort of contractor. The notion of a contractor doesn't really exist here in France, but as an "independent" business person, you can bill your UK "employer" for your services and paid that way. (Warning, you will have to charge them VAT if your billings exceed the VAT threshold.)

It's not exactly "easy" learning all the ins and outs of a French business entity, but it's doable.
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Just throwing in my opinion
A) Expats are around in the Poitou Charente area to the extent there is an english newspaper and monthly magazine. - obviously there is Dordogshire
B) If you are working via the internet broadband speeds are not those of the UK espcially if you are used to cable speeds and vary from area to area.

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A) Expats are around in the Poitou Charente area to the extent there is an english newspaper and monthly magazine. - obviously there is Dordogshire
B) If you are working via the internet broadband speeds are not those of the UK espcially if you are used to cable speeds and vary from area to area.

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Good points both Tank - as far as expats in and around Brittany are concerned most seem to north of the N24.

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Thanks guys for the responses guys. As I said, its a while off yet but thought I would like to start looking/thinking now as its a big thing to do 'move to another country' and would like to get all the facts in beforehand

Anyway, the wife and I will be spending a week in the Honfleur area in a couple of weeks time so it might be an idea to look around to see if we like the area. That said, the 'Languedoc-Roussillon' area looks lovely .. Another question if I may, is subscribing to a French 'living' magazine worth while ?

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If you're talking about the magazine I think you are, my answer'd be "no" unless you want whacky, off-the-wall advice about costly equipment to install to turn your French hovel into a magazine showhome, subject to having bottomless pockets.

But that's only my opinion ...

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Anyway, the wife and I will be spending a week in the Honfleur area in a couple of weeks time so it might be an idea to look around to see if we like the area. That said, the 'Languedoc-Roussillon' area looks lovely .. Another question if I may, is subscribing to a French 'living' magazine worth while ?
Hi,

Living France is fine as a "dreamers " magazine but not a lot of content. I bought it once for the classified adds.


If you go on the web you can get buckets of information free -
Essential Info - Your Questions Answered
AngloINFO France. Everything for expats living in or moving to France.

Or if like me you are a book person I would recommend the books by David Hampshire. Slightly dated on tax etc but a good overview.

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