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We are getting nearer to making our decision to move to France permanently. Our UK home is sold.

However our main concern is our son. He is 26, was working as a lawyer going to see a client when he was wiped out by a HGV. He fractured his spine in several places and is not currently able to work. He is on a large amount of medication. He desperately wants to come with us and we are just wondering what the situation is bring a disabled relative to live in France. We have private health care quotes until we would be able to join the french health care system. He will eventually be self funding as the other party have admitted full responsibility and a large payout will be made in time. Our GP will happily supply a large quantity of medication in the short term - by chance she is also moving to join her family in Brittany. Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.

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Sorry to hear about your son, I hope he makes a full recovery.

I don't have a specific answer, other than France is a much more caring place than the UK is these days.

What did catch my attention was the mention of a large payout on the horizon.

I would just check if there could be any tax implications in France, or if this type of damages payment is exempt.

Good Luck.

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I really can’t imagine there would be any particular problems as long as you followed all the basic guidelines for immigration under the withdrawal agreement. The issue regarding your son is more likely to be around economics than his physical situation. if you were seriously concerned your son might not qualify under the withdrawal agreement, he could simply wait until next January and request a standard third country national visitors visa, VLS-TS. But, and this is only a seat of the pants guess on my part, I am confident that she would not have a problem if he is living with you in the conditions that you stated.
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I seem to remember you will be setting up a business when you get here? I think as long as he is covered by the private health cover initally. If he is considered your dependant you should be able to have him listed under your Carte Vital as a dependant once you get in the system. My husbands 'job' is doing up our house and in the future our gites so he is considered my dependant even as a spouse. I guess worse case would be him having to continue to pay private health cover until the time his money comes through. others will know better than me. I also want to say I'm so sorry, what a sad story I hope with the right treatments he can in time be well xx
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Sorry to hear about your son, I hope he makes a full recovery.

I don't have a specific answer, other than France is a much more caring place than the UK is these days.

What did catch my attention was the mention of a large payout on the horizon.

I would just check if there could be any tax implications in France, or if this type of damages payment is exempt.

Good Luck.
Any payment would go into a trust fund set up by his solicitors so should be exempt but worth confirming. A good point thank you

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A friend of mine is wheelchair bound, due to a long term degenerative condition. From various discussions with her and her husband, I understand that many of the services for handicapped individuals are handled at the departemental level - and the availability and quality of what is available can vary from one departement to the next.

Apparently it is the departemental agency that deals with things like securing or replacing wheelchairs and other types of adaptive equipment. My friend and her husband have "stories" about their battles to secure a second wheelchair or to get repairs for her chair. They recently got approval to purchase a wheel chair van (when she became unable to transfer from her chair to a car seat) and her husband was not overly impressed with the departement's "contribution" to the costs of the van.

There is also the matter of just what services your son needs (or will need in the future). Depending on where you are located, there may or may not be available transport services - other than for medical needs. There are laws here requiring public buildings and shops to be accessible to handicapped persons, but the modifications are not always terribly useful or difficult to find and operate.

And, of course, there is always the consideration of his level of French, too. My friend has a French friend who is a retired nurse and who has been very helpful in helping cut through some of the bureaucracy simply by knowing how the system works and who to call when there is a problem.

Clicky is right - I think the French system is a very caring one. But it's also still French and tends to split up the responsibilities for each facet to a different agency. You get used to it after a while, but for a newcomer it can be enormously frustrating.

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One more comment. While most of the factors involved in getting a withdrawal agreement carte de séjour are known, it is also known that a lot of the decision will be made by whoever evaluates the applications. Bottom line, there’s no way to know without trying, and there is very little downside to trying. To expand on my earlier comment, I’d go for it. However, and it seems like there’s always a however, in your sons and your applications I would make it very clear that you, and therefore the applications, are related and that the living situation will be linked. Since no one knows exactly how the website will operate it is hard to know how to do that. But at the very least you might wish to include a cover letter with the material you submit. And by the way, I wish you good luck.

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Sorry to hear about your son, I hope he makes a full recovery.

I don't have a specific answer, other than France is a much more caring place than the UK is these days.

What did catch my attention was the mention of a large payout on the horizon.

I would just check if there could be any tax implications in France, or if this type of damages payment is exempt.

Good Luck.
Such payments are exempt from declaration as income tax.

However if the sums involved are invested then they may become liable for taxation like any other investment (assurance vie etc).

It's interesting to note that in the uk, once a settlement has been reached, the affair cannot be reopened. In France, if the person's health worsens after a settlement it is possible to reopen the case to take into account the new situation, even many years later. Your son will of course be covered by uk law in this respect wherever he lives.
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In each French département there is an MDPH (Maison Départementale des Personnes Handicapées). Anyone with a handicap has to be registered there to receive benefits they may need, including parking badge and if necessary help with daily living.

Your local doctor has to fill in a form with you, and you may be asked to attend an interview where the degree of your handicap is assessed so that you can receive the assistance your handicap entitles you to.

However they are currently understaffed and so there are delays of several months before you receive a reply.

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My husbands 'job' is doing up our house and in the future our gites so he is considered my dependant even as a spouse.
I thought the ayant droit for adults was phased out years ago

The OP's case would be different since their son is a dependant. I believe you and your OH will benefit from additional tax allowances for having an adult dependant too, others will know more hopefully.

Hopefully a complete change of scenery and new life in France will do him and you a world of good after what he and you have been through. Bon courage.

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