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As someone who has long dreamed of retiring to a quiet hamlet in rural France, I have often used this forum for informed views and information. We are now in the process of selling our UK home and are actively seeking the right place in France. I was somewhat worried by the tone behind another recent thread (about financing a house purchase).

Can I please ask for your opinion on whether you would still move to France now, giving what you know?

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It's a big question, and you haven't given many details.

Financing the sale,purchase is important in the short term, quickly forgotten in the long term.

What experience do you have of France?

What does a hamlet mean to you? Calm, peace, an Enid Blyton life style? It can mean no local café, shops,long drive to doctor..important with age, limited social life, even if you speak passable French.

Why France? Why not a hamlet in rural England?

Charning villages in France in summer can be drear in winter. Roughly, winters in France N of the Loire can be wet cold and long.

Most posters here love France and all that goes with it, but it is not always easy.

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Can I please ask for your opinion on whether you would still move to France now, giving what you know?
I would.
But I['m not you. And you moving or not moving to France, is all about you.
We all have different lifestyles, different expectations, different priorities.
Smeg talks a lot of sense but he sees things very black and white. He doesn't see shades of grey and he doesn't accept that people don't always draw the line between black and white exactly where he draws it.
I would say, keep reading the posts but read them critically and make the difference between the subjective comments and the objective comments. The subjective opinions of a person who is very different to you can still be food for thought, but you don't have to swallow them, you can spit them out. As opposed to hard facts, which you can't spit out if you don't like them.

At the end of the day if it's right for you, it matters not one jot whether or not it's right for me, or for Smeg, or for anybody else in the world. Likewise, the fact that I think it's right for me, doesn't mean it would also be right for you.

If you want to live a quiet life as retirees in a part of France that isn't likely to be hit by economic hardships and social unrest, and you're sure your expectations are realistic, go right ahead and don't worry about what's happening in French cities. But, do make plans for later life, when independent living may become challenging.


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Can I make a simple suggestion? Don't rush to buy anything. Rent from a period of at least Oct to the end of March. At the end of that time decide if it's what you want.

Don't pick a place during the spring or summer. Don't even pick an area that time of year.

The worst that happens is it costs you a bit of money.

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When you say you are worried about financing a house purchase in France what do you mean exactly? A mortgage? coordinating sale and purchase? or the sheer practicalities of it all? The more specific you are the more we can help In respect of living in a hamlet we live in Brittany in what I would describe as a Large hamlet but not really a village We have a really good community there is or rather was a fete every year for Bastille Day Other hamlets nearby are dreary places so it depends really Our nearest shop/boulanger is a five minutes drive the town and doctors are 10 mins
I always apply the litre of milk test ie if you suddenly run out of milk what do you need to do?

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OK, do be careful about taking our resident curmudgeon, Smeg, too seriously. He does, however, do a good job of bursting bubbles of those who have a tendency to romanticize the notion of living in France - it's full of aggravations and disappointments, just like living anywhere in the world is.

Whether or not you "should" move to France is largely a function of why you're thinking of moving there and what you hope to find/accomplish. We normally recommend that you have a reason to move to a place rather than simply wanting to get away from where you currently are - because you will inevitably bring all your baggage with you from wherever.

Personally, I moved to France to be with my significant other who lives here. It wasn't really a matter of choice, but I had the advantage that my family on one side originally came from France and I had just happened to have studied French in school (though it takes quite a while to get back to a point where you can actually use the language on a day to day basis). I had significant immigration problems at the beginning and there have been ups and downs along the way. You need a good sense of humor (particularly the ability to laugh at yourself for the mistakes and misassumptions you'll make along the way) and it helps to have a Plan B in mind - what you'll do if things go sour for you. (If they do, it will be in a way that you never would have thought of on your own.)

There will be things you don't like about living in France. But some people let those things get on their nerves and others just find a way to live with them, either by learning to cope or just by ignoring them (if that's possible). Net-net, I'm very happy to be here in France (especially when I follow what's going on in my "Old Country" lately).

If you're retiring to France, you do need to give some thought to getting old in France (especially in a "rural hamlet") - you will need enough French to cope with doctors, taxes, and general administrative things. And there is the matter of getting around if and when one or both of you are no longer able to drive. Seniors in France tend to be rather dependent on their families - for those of us with no family in France you need workarounds. And there is the issue of what the surviving spouse will do when the first of you dies. (Or at least what the surviving spouse's options will be.) But lots of folks have resolved these kinds of issues - or have the resources to improvise when the time comes.
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ET Said it for me. Though, I would emphasize, given the way you phrased your post, dear Smeg's comments may be something you will want to seriously think about. I don't mean to accept his do and don't "dictates," but rather, think about the issues and questions he raises in various threads. This will help you answer your own question. And, certainly come back here to address issues you need to look into further.


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Hello Crabbers!

Clearly we have very different lifestyles and moral values. I certainly would not base any decisions on the idea of running out of MILK. Now running out of good red wine is an entirely different matter.

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When you say you are worried about financing a house purchase in France what do you mean exactly? A mortgage? coordinating sale and purchase? or the sheer practicalities of it all? The more specific you are the more we can help In respect of living in a hamlet we live in Brittany in what I would describe as a Large hamlet but not really a village We have a really good community there is or rather was a fete every year for Bastille Day Other hamlets nearby are dreary places so it depends really Our nearest shop/boulanger is a five minutes drive the town and doctors are 10 mins
I always apply the litre of milk test ie if you suddenly run out of milk what do you need to do?
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If you want to live a quiet life as retirees in a part of France that isn't likely to be hit by economic hardships and social unrest, and you're sure your expectations are realistic, go right ahead and don't worry about what's happening in French cities.
Just to make a point here, those who are protesting the most in France are from rural areas.

They just protest in cities
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Hello all.

As someone who has long dreamed of retiring to a quiet hamlet in rural France, I have often used this forum for informed views and information. We are now in the process of selling our UK home and are actively seeking the right place in France. I was somewhat worried by the tone behind another recent thread (about financing a house purchase).

Can I please ask for your opinion on whether you would still move to France now, giving what you know?
I have highlighted your next step.

France is a big place.

Yes, move to France if that is your dream. But do you want to end up in an old peoples home in France ? Horrible thing to write, but I don't.
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