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Just pondering about if we dont' get DHs CNF (sorry EH - I know I know - only 8 more sleeps! ) and wondering about the finance thing. I was on paid maternity leave the first year i was here and then had enough money to manage with savings to stay home with my LO whilst trying to run an AE but it was hopeless iwth a very difficult child. I then starting working for a really good UK company last year, my contract this year was already longer and getting paid more and future opportunity for growth (better wage and year round rather than 8 months). However being a tourism company I lost my job for this year. I've just finished TEFL so I'm hoping to get some more teaching work and get set up properly doing that (just need to find the code and change my ME over!). So things are tight (dh has a health condition and working getting our house and gites renovated. We have no mortgage and have been here over 5 years.

Can anyone link me to the 'rules' about money? I'm guessing I'm not the only one whose lost their job due to covid? I did read something about looking for work / signed up with PE counts as being active bu tthere was no link ot follow the comment.

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Just pondering about if we dont' get DHs CNF (sorry EH - I know I know - only 8 more sleeps! ) and wondering about the finance thing. I was on paid maternity leave the first year i was here and then had enough money to manage with savings to stay home with my LO whilst trying to run an AE but it was hopeless iwth a very difficult child. I then starting working for a really good UK company last year, my contract this year was already longer and getting paid more and future opportunity for growth (better wage and year round rather than 8 months). However being a tourism company I lost my job for this year. I've just finished TEFL so I'm hoping to get some more teaching work and get set up properly doing that (just need to find the code and change my ME over!). So things are tight (dh has a health condition and working getting our house and gites renovated. We have no mortgage and have been here over 5 years.

Can anyone link me to the 'rules' about money? I'm guessing I'm not the only one whose lost their job due to covid? I did read something about looking for work / signed up with PE counts as being active bu tthere was no link ot follow the comment.
Do you mean for your CDS? If you have been here legally for more than 5 years, it shouldn't matter, though 'legally' means complying with the FOM rules.

It would appear that your first couple of years in France are not an issue, last year should not be an issue either because of your job.

I thought your job contract last year simply came to an end because the season ended and I thought that would have been before the Covid-19 crisis?

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En cas de cessation involontaire de votre activité, vous devez justifier le maintien de votre droit au séjour en fournissant suivant votre situation :
un certificat d'incapacité de travail,
ou une attestation de suivi de stage, accompagnée d'une attestation de cessation d'activité précisant les conditions de cette cessation en cas de stage n'étant pas en lien avec l'activité professionnelle antérieure,
ou une attestation d'inscription à Pôle emploi et un justificatif de la durée d'exercice de l'activité qui a pris fin et de sa cessation.

Take a look at these 2 links

https://www.service-public.fr/partic...osdroits/F2651
https://www.service-public.fr/partic...sdroits/F16003
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The fact that you've been here for 5 years definitely puts you in a different category than the post-Brexit Brits. Deep breath - and let's get to the appointment before you start working on Plan B. At this point, I kind of assume that if they were going to turn your husband down, they would have just done it by mail.

One step at a time. But given the current situation (for everyone) I do expect there will be some latitude. Even at the best of times, France tends to exercise a level of "discretion" over these matters. Worst case, just ask questions about what you should do next. Sometimes that is all it takes. But I expect you're far more likely to be pleasantly surprised.
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Do you mean for your CDS? If you have been here legally for more than 5 years, it shouldn't matter, though 'legally' means complying with the FOM rules.

It would appear that your first couple of years in France are not an issue, last year should not be an issue either because of your job.

I thought your job contract last year simply came to an end because the season ended and I thought that would have been before the Covid-19 crisis?
Yes, for the CDS (if need the WA one rather than a spouse one). Sounds like this year is OK too as I have been signed up with the Pole Emploi

I had a new contract due to start (originally 15 March) through until mid October, all being well this would have possibly been extended into full time / year round this year or next. Flights / hotels booked in London and everything for our pre season meetings!

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The fact that you've been here for 5 years definitely puts you in a different category than the post-Brexit Brits. Deep breath - and let's get to the appointment before you start working on Plan B. At this point, I kind of assume that if they were going to turn your husband down, they would have just done it by mail.

One step at a time. But given the current situation (for everyone) I do expect there will be some latitude. Even at the best of times, France tends to exercise a level of "discretion" over these matters. Worst case, just ask questions about what you should do next. Sometimes that is all it takes. But I expect you're far more likely to be pleasantly surprised.
Yes you are right need to wait to see the decision first before worrying about plan B!


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Yes you are right need to wait to see the decision first before worrying about plan B!
I wouldn't worry in any case.

Very worst case scenario, you may have to reset the clock to the point starting from which you can show an unbroken 5 years of meeting the conditions. So if that was less than 5 years ago you would get a provisional card to start with, then when you'd clocked up a couple more years you would get your your permanent card. If you've worked but are temporarily unemployed and are doing all the right things with pole emploi you still count as a worker, and I'm sure that in the present situation they will be tolerant even with longer periods out of work. Save all your paperwork, just in case.

Hopefully your contract will be reinstated next year and you'll be able to pick up from where you left off. My situation is similar in a way - I was all ready to start the season in March and then, arrgh. Where I worked we wore an orange and black uniform on reception and I'd been buying all kinds of orange-themed accessories and silly tat, it was going to be my last season so I'd decided I would go for it and act the clown and make it one to remember. I left the orange wall clock and the orange desk mat and the orange desk organiser in situ in case the site ever opens again, but now I've got an orange bumbag and a drawer full of orange foulards and scarves and a stupid orange baseball cap thingy that I will never ever wear now. Orange isn't my colour, and specially at my age...
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I wouldn't worry in any case.

Very worst case scenario, you may have to reset the clock to the point starting from which you can show an unbroken 5 years of meeting the conditions. So if that was less than 5 years ago you would get a provisional card to start with, then when you'd clocked up a couple more years you would get your your permanent card. If you've worked but are temporarily unemployed and are doing all the right things with pole emploi you still count as a worker, and I'm sure that in the present situation they will be tolerant even with longer periods out of work. Save all your paperwork, just in case.

Hopefully your contract will be reinstated next year and you'll be able to pick up from where you left off.
Thank you that does all make sense, and make me feel better! I'm hoping that it will to as it was a great job, work from home (or side of pool where I'd take my little one when hot!), set my own hours, great travel perks at beginning and end!

I'm so sorry to hear you are in a similar situation and have been left with a surplus of orange in your life I bought a new jacket and top for the London trip which a/ I can not not really afford to have spent that and b/ not much use for a smart pink blazer here
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