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Surely any exit strategy by governments must begin with a data base of those who have gained immunity. These people could then take over many jobs or at least assist where possible where the workforces may have been depleted through staff infection. Does this make sense to anyone or just me?

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Seems like sound thinking to me

I for one will never know if the flu-like symptoms I had were due to C19 or something else.

The majority of people have mild symptoms and if reliable testing had been made widely available they would now be able to take up work in necessary jobs.

Truck drivers, medical staff, police, utiity services, food producers ans salespeople are going to have to cope with drastic absences due to sickness or quarantine.

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Surely any exit strategy by governments must begin with a data base of those who have gained immunity.
We can't rely on governments to act swiftly enough in an emergency. Too slow and distant.

A sanitary crisis should be managed by regional/departmental health authorities.

When the C19 started up in the Oise, the medical staff in Creil and Compiègne hospitals screamed out for immediate action and got no answer from Buzyn.

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Surely any exit strategy by governments must begin with a data base of those who have gained immunity. These people could then take over many jobs or at least assist where possible where the workforces may have been depleted through staff infection. Does this make sense to anyone or just me?
They're working on an antibody test in the UK to do just that.

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We can't rely on governments to act swiftly enough in an emergency. Too slow and distant.

A sanitary crisis should be managed by regional/departmental health authorities.

When the C19 started up in the Oise, the medical staff in Creil and Compiègne hospitals screamed out for immediate action and got no answer from Buzyn.
That's always been the approach in the US and at the moment, it doesn't seem to be working all that well.

Then there are little questions like: IS there a reliable test to determine if someone has had the virus but has recovered and now is immune?

How long does immunity last after someone has recovered?

And how to administer all those tests (whether for the virus itself in active state or any immunity conferred by having had it) at this point without just exposing everyone to infection.

This is called a "novel" coronovirus because it's brand new and there isn't a lot known about it. Yet the government is trying to make very critical decisions with only partial information. I don't know about you, but I really wouldn't want to have their jobs and their responsibilities right now.

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Seems like sound thinking to me

I for one will never know if the flu-like symptoms I had were due to C19 or something else.

The majority of people have mild symptoms and if reliable testing had been made widely available they would now be able to take up work in necessary jobs.

Truck drivers, medical staff, police, utiity services, food producers ans salespeople are going to have to cope with drastic absences due to sickness or quarantine.

Face au coronavirus, des médecins portent plainte contre Philippe et Buzyn
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Well, if they had done that, they might be a bit further along about understanding he virus, but the epidemiologists are divided about the immunity thing and whether those people might reinfect, might further spread the virus etc., although there is an inkling of agreement about we don't know and it is risky (the risk is actually enormous). The best learnings will come out of South Korea and Japan.
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Well, if they had done that, they might be a bit further along about understanding he virus, but the epidemiologists are divided about the immunity thing and whether those people might reinfect, might further spread the virus etc., although there is an inkling of agreement about we don't know and it is risky (the risk is actually enormous). The best learnings will come out of South Korea and Japan.

Talking of Japan - did anyone see the Olympic Flame arriving to great pomp & ceremony?

Do you want to tell them, or should I ?

I just hope they've got plenty of gas to keep it ticking over for quite a while.
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Someone in Tokyo is having sleepless nights adding up the lost revenue from advertising and tv rights.

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Someone in Tokyo is having sleepless nights adding up the lost revenue from advertising and tv rights.
They could be putting their people at risk by trying to bluff their way through it.

Apparently the only sign of a pandemic is the schools being closed, everything else is open as normal.
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My friend Mayu is Japanese and currently living in Tokyo. I think the only possibility of it going ahead would be without spectators and televised. In Tokyo at least they are taking great care, BUT running out of face masks. She is currently washing and re-using hers and has given her small remaining stock to her parents. She like many takes it in turn with other family members to go and help out the parents. (She is well under 60 BTW. She sees no chance of being able to travel overseas again either this years or next, as it is movement in Tokyo and elsewhere is very restricted and movements are still dropping.)

But then, they haven't sorted out Fukushima yet and not so long ago they were talking about releasing a huge amount of contaminated water into the ocean.

Go figure

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