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Nomoss 4th December 2019 01:11 PM

Our house was "modernised" in the 1970's.

I don't know if this was ever a general system, or bricolage by the previous owner, but the curtain rod in one room was supported by two solid square section steel rods, about 1/4" diameter and 6" long, with a point at one end, driven into the brick wall.

There were vertical pins about 1/4" long at the other ends, which I assumed were originally designed to hold something fancier than the round wooden rod which was sitting loose on the supports.

I removed the supports when I insulated the inside of the wall, by hammering them gently from side to side until they were loosened.

EDIT: I just found a picture of something similar Atelier de forge ROBERT & ROBERT : Tringles anciennes

Scroll down and click on the image of the yellow curtain. Maybe the original bar was missing from ours.

rynd2it 4th December 2019 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Nomoss (Post 15002678)
Our house was "modernised" in the 1970's.

I don't know if this was ever a general system, or bricolage by the previous owner, but the curtain rod in one room was supported by two solid square section steel rods, about 1/4" diameter and 6" long, with a point at one end, driven into the brick wall.

There were screws about 1/2" long tapped vertically into the other ends, which I assumed were originally designed to hold something fancier than the round wooden rod which was sitting loose on the supports.

I removed the supports when I insulated the inside of the wall, by hammering them gently from side to side until they were loosened.

EDIT: I just found a picture of something similar Atelier de forge ROBERT & ROBERT : Tringles anciennes

Scroll down and click on the image of the yellow curtain. Maybe the original bar was missing from ours.

That's them all right. I tried twisting with a pair of mole grips but apart from a very slight movement - nothing. I'll try hammering as well and I have considered cutting them off with a Dremel (or similar) but the mess will be an issue. I may just hacksaw them short to the wall and disguise them with the new curtain rod supports.

More later

eairicbloodaxe 4th December 2019 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rynd2it (Post 15002690)
That's them all right. I tried twisting with a pair of mole grips but apart from a very slight movement - nothing. I'll try hammering as well and I have considered cutting them off with a Dremel (or similar) but the mess will be an issue. I may just hacksaw them short to the wall and disguise them with the new curtain rod supports.

More later

Those are the same as ours. They obviously go a long way in...

Regards

Ian

Nomoss 4th December 2019 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by eairicbloodaxe (Post 15002304)
If your house is VERY old, they may even be leaded in... (Fixed into a chiselled hole in the stone, using molten lead as adhesive/filler). ..................

I mentioned our house was modernised in the 1970's, but it was apparently converted in the 1900's from an even older building which was a brickworks with some living accommodation.

So the supports which I took out of the wall could have been antiques.

EverHopeful 4th December 2019 02:13 PM

Well, those certainly don't date from the 1970s, or even the 60s. When you purchase an old home, you have to expect that there will be issues.

rynd2it 4th December 2019 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by EverHopeful (Post 15002726)
Well, those certainly don't date from the 1970s, or even the 60s. When you purchase an old home, you have to expect that there will be issues.

Our house was built in the 1960's - always expect issues, this was just to see if anyone had a method of removing them.

Smeg 4th December 2019 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rynd2it (Post 15002732)
Our house was built in the 1960's - always expect issues, this was just to see if anyone had a method of removing them.

Whack it with a hammer then fill the hole.

Even if it was screwed in, you will still have to fill the holes.

A larger hole does not change much. You still have to fill the hole.

EverHopeful 4th December 2019 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rynd2it (Post 15002732)
Our house was built in the 1960's - always expect issues, this was just to see if anyone had a method of removing them.

Nonetheless, not necessarily usual in 1960's builds, though of course the area where you live might also be a factor.

And I apologise, I should have said when you buy an old home you should expect the unexpected (and clearly you did). The older the home, the more likely you are to come across unexpected things, of course, even if renovations have previously been done. Of course, when it comes to renovations (on homes of any era), the bricoleur issue, especially the mauvais bricoleur.

berkinet 4th December 2019 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rynd2it (Post 15002690)
... I'll try hammering as well and I have considered cutting them off with a Dremel (or similar) but the mess will be an issue. I may just hacksaw them short to the wall and disguise them with the new curtain rod supports...

A Dremel tool is unlikely to do the trick as the blades and bits are not really intended for iron. You might try drilling out the anchor. Start with a fairly small metal bit, say 5 or 6mm. Then drill progressively larger until you can pry out the remaining material. You don't need to remove the entire anchor, only enough to create a nice cavity you can fill with patching plaster.

You could also use an angle grinder. It would be faster and easier than a hacksaw and you'd also end up with a flush surface (after a little grinding). However, an angle grinder is a fairly dangerous tool if you have never used one before.

Or... you could ask around for "un Homme tout faire."

rynd2it 5th December 2019 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by berkinet (Post 15002798)
A Dremel tool is unlikely to do the trick as the blades and bits are not really intended for iron. You might try drilling out the anchor. Start with a fairly small metal bit, say 5 or 6mm. Then drill progressively larger until you can pry out the remaining material. You don't need to remove the entire anchor, only enough to create a nice cavity you can fill with patching plaster.

You could also use an angle grinder. It would be faster and easier than a hacksaw and you'd also end up with a flush surface (after a little grinding). However, an angle grinder is a fairly dangerous tool if you have never used one before.

Or... you could ask around for "un Homme tout faire."


All good suggestions, thanks. Grinding or any form of power cutting is going to create too much mess for the area so I'm leaning towards the hacksaw and drilling idea.

Cheers


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