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Hello,

There's a big Chinese company whose French subsidiary I interviewed for, and have accepted the offer unofficially (meaning they emailed me the outline of the contract, we discussed on the phone and I accepted the offer, but I didn't sign any contract yet). Now, after they proposed me the salary and we agreed upon and I accepted it, they're asking me the detail of salary from my last job.

My question is: can they legally do that in France, and if yes, am I legally supposed to answer this question? If I don't answer it, am I risking my contract? The salary they proposed is 12000€ higher than my previous salary.

Also, they wrote that they need this info just for the record in ther system, but I wonder if they can actually ask to see the last contract?

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Lie.

Tell them that the contract from your last job specifically forbids you telling future employers what your salary was.
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This is not my area of expertise, I have only been a UK employer and I did not ask such questions when holding interviews. However, as you asked for a speedy response and nobody else answered I had a quick Google for you.

https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtoo...t-process.aspx

Check out the bit under “Professional Experience”.

I would not offer an opinion on what to do, I feel it needs to be your call. But to me it seems odd to be asked at this stage of things. Have they sent you the contract to sign? If not, what’s their reason for you not having it yet?

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Oops, sorry Peasant, not saying you’re “nobody”. I had begun my post before you answered and got distracted (apparently it was cat lunch o’clock and according to them starvation was imminent).

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Oops, sorry Peasant, not saying youíre ďnobodyĒ. I had begun my post before you answered and got distracted (apparently it was cat lunch oíclock and according to them starvation was imminent).
That's cats for you. My cat Mimi is the same.

I have had many jobs and attended many interviews in the past, and held a few too, but have been asked what salary I expected but NEVER was asked my salary with my then employer nor did I ask that question of interviewees.
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that's cats for you. My cat mimi is the same.

I have had many jobs and attended many interviews in the past, and held a few too, but have been asked what salary i expected but never was asked my salary with my then employer nor did i ask that question of interviewees. I consider it out of order.

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You are not under any obligation to tell them what your last salary was. However it may look odd if you do not wish to disclose this, and they may wonder why.

The power balance here is not in your favour: you want the job, they may have other candidates who are prepared to tell them all they want to know.

A future employer will need some proof of what you tell them, what form this takes is up to you to negociate with them.

Only you can decide which is the best solution for you.
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Hi,
Are they asking you to reveal your current salary or to prove it with paperwork?
It’s naughty of them to ask this - but you do risk losing the job if you don’t play ball.
I would be telling them a figure that is a few hundred euros per month less than their offer - providing they don’t want to see proof.
In the UK - you need to give your new employer a copy of your P45 - which normally contains information on pay and deductions to date during the current tax year - the new employer can therefore deduce a likely current salary from this information!
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Hi,
Are they asking you to reveal your current salary or to prove it with paperwork?
Itís naughty of them to ask this - but you do risk losing the job if you donít play ball.
I would be telling them a figure that is a few hundred euros per month less than their offer - providing they donít want to see proof.
In the UK - you need to give your new employer a copy of your P45 - which normally contains information on pay and deductions to date during the current tax year - the new employer can therefore deduce a likely current salary from this information!
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We now have tax at source in France, though the tax system here is so complex that it does not really divulge your salary and in any case there it is possible to keep certain details secret.

I believe though that the OP was laid off and is currently unemployed, which in any case puts him at a certain disadvantage.

That said, salaries are effectively packages and could be said to include benefits that are not necessarily comparable. The reality is that the paid salary does not necessarily reveal that much.

I think the OP really needs to consider how much he wants this particular job (including whether he has or expects to have other offers), although it is not necessarily the case that the employer is looking to reduce the salary offer. There are a host of reasons why an employer, especially when the parent company is outside the EU, might be looking for this type of information, including garnering information about what other companies in related industries are paying. Chinese companies can, though, be pretty invasive (though Chinese companies are not necessarily the only ones). But you know what - chances are that the OP if employed by the company would be required to enter into some kind of confidentiality agreement - these are not unusual, even for EU owned companies.

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That cat thing is very odd.
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