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You also have the insurance question. Obviously a vehicle on French plates needs French insurance but I don't know how that would work if you're not resident in France. In order to have your driving history taken into account for your bonus/malus you would need to ask your UK insurer to provide the details to your French insurance company, which with UK insurers being what they are, could be an issue. French insurers in my experience tend to be less obstructive than UK insurers but even so, insuring a vehicle that would be parked up unattended "somewhere in France" for most of the year, for a client who lives in another country, might be pushing it? Do you have a French bank account to pay the insurance?

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Thanks.

I think I will drop the idea.

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You also have the insurance question. Obviously a vehicle on French plates needs French insurance but I don't know how that would work if you're not resident in France. In order to have your driving history taken into account for your bonus/malus you would need to ask your UK insurer to provide the details to your French insurance company, which with UK insurers being what they are, could be an issue. French insurers in my experience tend to be less obstructive than UK insurers but even so, insuring a vehicle that would be parked up unattended "somewhere in France" for most of the year, for a client who lives in another country, might be pushing it? Do you have a French bank account to pay the insurance?

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I think I will drop the idea.

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Don't be put off if it's your dream, it is probably do-able, but I don't think it would be simple by a long chalk.

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Of course you could just drive it over from the UK when you go on holiday and then drive it back again at the end That sounds simple to me
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30 years old is the qualifying criteria for registering as Véhicule de Collection so as an 88 it passes that critical and major hurdle and with that in the bag with a little ingenuity and lateral thinking everything else should be eminently doable.

Whether proof of no claims is required or not depends to some extent on who you approach for inurance, I didn't need it when I first moved over in 2007 and went through a local agent. It should be said though that low cost insurance designed for old timers is predicated on you having a normal car insured otherwise it's treated the same as that.

I imported a number of old cars during my time in France and the only time I remamber a utility bill being required was when applying for the Quitus Fiscale which is the tax clearance document you need very first of all.

One possible way to overcome that issue could be for your friend to do the registration as if he was the importer and then 'sell' it to you, from my admittedly limited and early days experience of ANTS (heart warming to hear that it's still as clumsy and un-user friendly as back then) I don't recall utility bills for proof of address coming into it but I could be mistaken.
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Very kind of you to reoly with your invaluable advice. Thank you.

I think I shall ask my friend to 'buy' it and then I can use it. Seems a lot easier.

Thank you again.









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30 years old is the qualifying criteria for registering as Véhicule de Collection so as an 88 it passes that critical and major hurdle and with that in the bag with a little ingenuity and lateral thinking everything else should be eminently doable.

Whether proof of no claims is required or not depends to some extent on who you approach for inurance, I didn't need it when I first moved over in 2007 and went through a local agent. It should be said though that low cost insurance designed for old timers is predicated on you having a normal car insured otherwise it's treated the same as that.

I imported a number of old cars during my time in France and the only time I remamber a utility bill being required was when applying for the Quitus Fiscale which is the tax clearance document you need very first of all.

One possible way to overcome that issue could be for your friend to do the registration as if he was the importer and then 'sell' it to you, from my admittedly limited and early days experience of ANTS (heart warming to hear that it's still as clumsy and un-user friendly as back then) I don't recall utility bills for proof of address coming into it but I could be mistaken.

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Then of course he will have to re register it insure it and act as the owner in case of offences etc
To register it as a vehicule de collection go to www.ffve.org

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Whether you keep it registered to a friend or not obviously depends on the strength and depth of the relationship but in the case of an offence as the registered owner you can denounce a 3rd party as the driver, a simple enough process the instructions for which accompany the notification of the offence.

Dobbed 'er indoors in once when she got done in a car registered to me

There should be no real problem in transferring the ownership though as your friend can make an 'attestation de honor' that his address is yours when you are in France.

Not sure if it's still so but it used to be possible to register a car to a minor who by definition can have no utility bills in his or her name for proof of address.


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Thank you all for your replies and valuable advice.




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Whether you keep it registered to a friend or not obviously depends on the strength and depth of the relationship but in the case of an offence as the registered owner you can denounce a 3rd party as the driver, a simple enough process the instructions for which accompany the notification of the offence.

Dobbed 'er indoors in once when she got done in a car registered to me

There should be no real problem in transferring the ownership though as your friend can make an 'attestation de honor' that his address is yours when you are in France.

Not sure if it's still so but it used to be possible to register a car to a minor who by definition can have no utility bills in his or her name for proof of address.

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Hi

Very kind of you to reoly with your invaluable advice. Thank you.

I think I shall ask my friend to 'buy' it and then I can use it. Seems a lot easier.

Thank you again.
You can actually "give" it to your friend without any payment changing hands. The registration process doesn't require any "selling price" but these days really does seem to require a "proof of residence" - they do use that address for follow up on any "offenses" committed with the vehicle.

We recently gave away an unused camper and the online process was relatively simple and painless. Your friend will then be responsible for getting the vehicle inspected and insured, but you can work out a way to reimburse him or her for the expenses.

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