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Hello all, Im renting and my downstairs neighbor has been complaining about a leak. Landlord and I cant find the source.. and recently its gotten worse. Neighbor would like something done, and rightly so.

Just wondering what my responsibilities are here and expectations. Does the landlord call the plumber and arrange things? Am I supposed to (with or without approval from landlord) and who pays?

Im pretty sure its not my fault at all -- there are no appliances we've hooked up that could be doing this and we havent used the washing machine in days. Im pretty sure its some outtake pipe in the wall or floor, but that would be hard to verify without breaking the walls and seeing whats going on... which would be costly.

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Can the three of you collaborate on calling in a plumber to try to determine the source of the leak?

Actually, this is one of those things that is "classic" for being handled by your required renters' insurance - IF the leak is somehow coming from your apartment. Cooperation may be your best option up to the point where the plumber suggests breaking into walls. But see what a "pro" thinks is going on.

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Might be hard as the landlord is in Asia, but we are all very polite and get along. Do I involve the insurance now or after the plumber has some idea whats going on? Both my neighbor and I will be present during the first visit by the plumber. I'm not sure who should pay for the initial consultation.

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It might depend on where the leak comes from :
1 Your equipment .. then you pay
2 Equipment or visible pipework belonging to the flat/landlord then he pays
3 Hidden piping in the fabric of the building then usually the syndic in charge of maintenance in the co-propriété asks for an investigation by a qualified person and they (the syndic) pay for the investigation until it can be proved where the leak is.
Which means it can be the landlord if the leak is, say, under the bath in the apartment he owns.

If no syndic then, logically, it should be your landlord as he is required to provide premises which are habitable and in good repair.

When we had a leak under the floor I spoke to our landlady who organised a plumber and the bill (rather large) went straight to her.


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Might be hard as the landlord is in Asia, but we are all very polite and get along. Do I involve the insurance now or after the plumber has some idea whats going on? Both my neighbor and I will be present during the first visit by the plumber. I'm not sure who should pay for the initial consultation.

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I would say, involve the insurance, let them organise the plumber, etc.

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I would say, involve the insurance, let them organise the plumber, etc.
Yes but which insurance? Landlord's, neighbour's, OP's or all of these?

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Call your insurer - if it turns out to be the responsibility of the landlord or some other party, they will deal with the relevant insurer. Also ask your landlord for his insurance policy details.

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both insurer's can 'battle' it out once the source has been found.
if the leak is from directly above it will more than likely be one of your pipes / appliances that is the source rather than a neighbour on the same floor.

is the leak stain intermittent or constant ie is it a feed pipe or central heating pipe. is there a bad odour, waste pipe/sink/dishwasher/washing machine or sanitary.

if the downstairs neighbour has water damage o their ceiling that will need local repair or complete strip out more than likely so tracing the leak from there if it is somewhere in the ceiling/floor joist area may be cheaper and less destructive investigation than going through your floor finishes.

if you have a concrete floor and an embedded copper heating pipe has corroded as they do, then you could be in for major upheaval.

keep it simple and do a process of elimination, where does the leak appear down stairs what is immediately above. if you have no joy then call your insurer , if it is an insured peril they will want to limit their costs so will advise you what to do or even make an appointment on your behalf.

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