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Old 28th November 2012, 06:32 AM
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We have a house in France which we eventually intend to move permanently.

However we are unable currently to spend much time in France as we are looking after our parents. This situation may remain for another 5 years or more.

Our concern is the future possibility of the UK leaving the EU and the implication for our residency rights in the future.

We have 2 questions:

1. Is there is anything we could do now “to start the clock” on our residency even though we are not living there full time?

2. If we wish to live permantely in France, and the UK was no longer a member of the EU, is there any visa we could apply for to obtain permanent residency rights?

We would appreciate any advice.


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Old 28th November 2012, 07:28 AM
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I'm not sure anyone knows what will happen when and if the UK were to leave the EU.

Several years ago when there were also rumblings about the UK leaving the EU, a British friend of mine decided to claim her Irish heritage "just in case." If you've got a parent or grandparent who was Irish, this is one possibility.

But other than that, you're hardly alone. There are LOTS of Brits currently living and working (or on retirement) here in France and I hardly think they'll just be booted out. Since a carte de séjour isn't required for EU nationals, even those here for years are not going to be able to establish their residency - and for the moment, there is no indication what laws would or wouldn't apply to them anyhow.

I think you have to just hang loose and see what develops. (Or campaign vigorously for your side should the issue come down to a referendum.)
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Answer to question 1, no, sorry there isn't. You have to be resident, ie on French soil, for a minimum of 183 days a year to qualify for residency.

Can't answer question 2 I'm afraid.

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I'm sure even a far right Tory party won't campaign for a complete withdrawal but even if it were to happen I think a reasonable agreement would be reached, we would probably all have to go our local mairee and ask for a carte de sejour.
Don't forget it would be a two way problem for France at least, the worlds sixth largest population of french is London we are told with 300 000+ french living there (mainly Chelsea and Shepherds Bush I reckon), so one assumes that there would have to be some sort of reciprocal arrangement.
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Britain will never pull out of the Euro group no matter what, the UK does far to much business with Europe and the Uk banks will not allow it, they are the real power in the UK and Europe, politicians are their puppets. as the current financial climate show.
Also the European laws would have to be rewritten, can you imagine that.
How much does the UK pay into europe, only Germany pays more, to make up the deficiet would bankrupt several countries including France who are technically bankrupt any way.

So there is no need to worry, the Uk or England will stay in the Europe as will Scotland.
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The UK isn't going to leave the European Union. So there is no point spending time worrying about it.

Even if they did (which they won't) there is nothing you can do about it anyway, as you are not prepared to become a resident at this time.

Plus, even if they did leave the EU (which they won't) they would probably not leave the Free Movement agreement which would leave you the right to residence in France.

So, conclusion: Stop worrying about it! Now worry about the fact that the world is about to end in 22 days!
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I must admit the "out of EU" rumblings seem to be getting loader.

Get the impression that it's an anti-EU group making louder noises and as there are little or no noises coming from the pro-EU's. Looking at the UK press on internet I get the impression that it is a "certain" press group that is responsible. None of my friends in the UK wish to leave the EU - but then I'm pro EU, so like attracts like.

As for your residency rights and your permis de séjour, you will have to wait and see as others have said - it's early days and it's not done yet.

If the UK left the EU it would be a major disaster for the British economy, although many believe otherwise - eg: I could well see European companies pulling out of the UK (BMW Mini production in Oxford being moved to Germany ?). I can remember the arguements that were put forward back in the days of Edward Heath - "we must be in to have acces to Europe and to attract industry"

But don't worry...... a lot of water will go under the bridge.......
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world is about to end in 22 days ahhh, why am i just being told this now...

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What did you think was going to happen?

Did you think they'd send us all back home in little boats from Dunkirk?
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I think it is highly unlikely that Britain would leave the EU completely as there are too many benefits. What is more likely in my opinion is that Britain may come to an agreement to have autonomy in certain matters, for instance imigration.
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