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Old 7th June 2012, 07:18 AM
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Hi there,

I got a job offer in Grenoble, and I am pretty confused because till now I couldn't make a decision about it. Deep down, I would love to go and experience the living in France, But on the other hand, the salary is not that great (1500 Euros - Gross salary) and am afraid that I will suffer there with my family. Therefore, I would love to get to know your opinion about some things which are as follows:

1) What do you think about Grenoble city? Is it really safe and clean environment for a family? (I am not expecting it to be utopia, But at least I am looking for decent standards). However, If I decided to move there, then, I guess I will go for uptown - Not because I am too rich and I can afford a fancy and a classy flat, But I do care about the security and the well-being of my only son and my wife.

2) What is the best places to live in Grenoble city? How much renting a small cozy flat would be (About 1 bedroom & 1 living room with bathroom and kitchen)?

3) What about the average cost of living in Grenoble? I know this depends on the life style of the person, But on average standards: How much money (in Euros) do I need to spend monthly for food, electricity, water, transportation, Internet connection , rent ... etc?

4) What do you think about the language barrier?


5) Are there any other thoughts you would like to draw my attention to? Or some of your personal experiences that you would like to share with me?


I would greatly and sincerely appreciate your inputs !

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Old 7th June 2012, 09:52 AM
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1500 euros is simply not enough to live anywhere in France I think especially for an entire family. You need at least 2500-3000 a month to live decently even in Grenoble. Groceries, eating out, public transport - everything is expensive. So I suggest unless you get a job paying higher income don't go. Otherwise - yes Grenoble is very beautiful in my opinion...it's not too far from the french riviera either....and the quality of life is amazing. A 1 bedroom apartment should still cost you 600-700 euros a month including all charges at least (electricity, phone, tv) . I guess it is possible to survive but will be very tough I think....if you are happy to live very tight, no travel, no eating out too much then go for it....living in France is an amazing experience despite all the problems here.....the country is very different and unique from everywhere else in the world.

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If you were alone for 1,500 I’d say, you could take the chance, although with such a small amount, after paying all bills, not much would be left for foods etc. I am living in a small town and that's not even enough, so you could compare with Grenoble. Also normally a 1 bed room apartment is for someone who is alone or a couple. Most home owners will not rent you a one bed room if you had a child which is "normal". To answer your question:" How much money (in Euros) do I need to spend monthly for food, electricity, water, transportation, Internet connection , rent ... etc?"
I am living around 70 km away from Grenoble in a small town, for electricity we paid 231Euros every two months and at the end of October we received the big bill which last year was 975 Euros (last year cheapest) We use electricity heater etc (with moderation) so if you add 6 times 231+ 975 you will have a overall idea. Water, i find is the cheapest, i think it's only two times per year that the bills are sent out (not quite sure, i will ask my hubby) for the six months it was 344. Internet connection is cheap between 34 and 54, and include house phone and cable( depend on the offer) As for transportation, i think you will have a car, which is a must, nothing to do here without your own car, as for foods, again it all depends on the way you eat( eating habits). If you are into organic (bio) foods, well that is expensive, and for a family of three , you need at least 600 Euros per month. I think no stranger here can survive without speaking the language, but nothing is impossible. Many schools offers free French course for strangers. In any country, no one can adapt themselves without speaking the language. Overall, if you were offered at least 4000 Euros per month, i would advise you to give it a try, but as i explained.

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My husband and I have been looking at Grenoble to live and we've found amble apartments around 30-50m2 in the 400-600 euro range. The city is beautiful especially with the surrounding mountains, great area for downhill biking and other outdoor activities.

Have a look on Petites annonces gratuites d'occasion - leboncoin.fr for an idea of rent prices. For two people 1500 would be sufficient, but for a family.... if your wife would have a visa with working rights and could work, you might be able to make it work.

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A salary of 1500 (or even 1700) seems a little light to me for a young family. But it depends a bit on the nature of the job. If it's a university thing - post doc or something similar - it should be do-able, if the university has some resources to put behind you (help in finding housing, some form of association to help you meet other researchers or post docs, etc.).

Figure that the SMIC (French for minimum wage) is just under 1400 - and they are supposed to be raising that soon.

OTOH, if it's a limited term kind of job that will add significantly to your resume (and career chances), it could be worth it to have a bit of an adventure for a year or two.

The language barrier is one issue you'll confront. In many research type jobs, the language at work will be English. But the shops and other public life will be in French. Also, if you're married, your spouse will be in the French environment all the time and will need some commitment to trying to learn the language.
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You won't be living "uptown" on that kind of salary. Frankly, I'm going to be honesty and say it's just too low to make such a move with a family. Sure there are people who live on that, but they aren't moving thousands of kilometers away, starting over from scratch with no family, friends or connections of any kind.

Hold out for a better offer to make the move.

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