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can anyone enlighten me to the extent of 3G or 4G coverage in France.

Whats the area you're in and what coverage do you get?

I NEED internet and ASDL is not available in some of the properties we've looked at

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You could try this link http://www.couverture-mobile.fr/
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3g/4g coverage is very much down to the EXACT location of the property. Of two properties in the same village, one may get 4g and the other only 3g, because hills and trees block signals.
Satellite internet is an alternative to ADSL but after a year we cancelled our contract with Ozone as the download speed had thoroughly degraded.

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I agree.....the 3g/4g seems very variable by geography. Here in the mountains the quality of recpeption defies logic. It ca nbe very good in a mountain valley miles from anywhere, nothing at at all in a village. Our ADSL was bad until a year ago, when Orange did something, now it's reallt very good.

You can down load signal strength apps for both mobile phone reception and for local wifi - I've found them very useful for sorting out problems.

For a good answer try your mairie.......because everybody goes to them with all their problems they know all the answers!

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Agree with DejW - you should go talk to the mairie. There is (or was) some sort of a deal whereby the service providers had to make ADSL available if a certain minimum number of inhabitants of a particular area signed a petition demanding it. The mairie would know if they have had inquiries from a certain part of town and could probably help persuading the service providers for the phone lines to "do the right thing."

3G and 4G coverage is still pretty spotty - even here in the Paris area - outside some of the larger towns.
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Agree ...our previous Maire was proud of the fact she negotiated/bullied or whatever to get an additional mobile phone mast installed. Certainly people like me from the UK have difficulty understanding the real and inferred power of Maires, even from small villages. They have all sorts of levers of powers that are not obvious. An intereresting example of democracy.... and it explains why some Maires end up in prison for abuse of power.

Example of power of maires......years ago with the second home in France. I left water tap running for 2 months between holiday visits. The consequent water bill was horrendous - I lost count of the number of zeros in the total in French francs. I talked to the Maire and she said she sat on a committee that dealt with people who could not pay their utiliity bills. (Never heard of it before or after that!). However, the bill was reduced to a calculated reasonable average.



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Agree with DejW - you should go talk to the mairie. There is (or was) some sort of a deal whereby the service providers had to make ADSL available if a certain minimum number of inhabitants of a particular area signed a petition demanding it. The mairie would know if they have had inquiries from a certain part of town and could probably help persuading the service providers for the phone lines to "do the right thing."

3G and 4G coverage is still pretty spotty - even here in the Paris area - outside some of the larger towns.
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I would never rely on 3G/4G (especially not 4G) unless I knew the exact location I wanted to use it in France because, as others have said, service is very spotty (although the government has taken steps to ensure service providers provide full 3G coverage; the government is also doing its best to ensure reliable internet is available to all because it wants most people to start using it for administrative matters, including tax - though only time will tell). If internet is not available in a property, I strongly suggest you not buy. If it is available, check speeds and reliability before proceeding to purchase.

Actually, internet can be really good in France, especially where fibre to the home is available (but FTTH is not available in remote locations). I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would in this day and age would consider buying a property where, at the very least, ADSL is not available; nor can I understand why anyone would buy a property without a phone line.
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I use satellite broadband at the moment in the UK due to my rural location. Download speeds are quite good but we are data limited and it isn't cheap. I would use something similar when I move to France later in the year if I have to. Has anybody else had any experience of using it in France please?

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Agree with internet generally in France - it does seem to be getter better, faster, more reliable and more widepsread - although there are difficult areas.

Re buying a house without internet......not sure I agree. A holiday home does not necessarily justify a permanent landline. Mobile phone is ok for short periods, although it can be expensive -depending on your forfait. Can be expensive, for example, using UK mobiles in France.

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I would never rely on 3G/4G (especially not 4G) unless I knew the exact location I wanted to use it in France because, as others have said, service is very spotty (although the government has taken steps to ensure service providers provide full 3G coverage; the government is also doing its best to ensure reliable internet is available to all because it wants most people to start using it for administrative matters, including tax - though only time will tell). If internet is not available in a property, I strongly suggest you not buy. If it is available, check speeds and reliability before proceeding to purchase.

Actually, internet can be really good in France, especially where fibre to the home is available (but FTTH is not available in remote locations). I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would in this day and age would consider buying a property where, at the very least, ADSL is not available; nor can I understand why anyone would buy a property without a phone line.

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Having been here for 5 years now:
1. ADSL is sooo last century! Fibre is what is being laid now. ADSL speeds degrade as more users come online between you and the exchange. We were at the end of a line and rarely got above 6 mb during the working day.
Typically 39 euros a month including calls.

2. Landlines are costly for telephone calls in France with a basic 16 euros a month for rental plus a supplement for calls typically 3-4 euros a month for 120 countries landlines.

3. Ozone satellite was 39 euros for 10gb of data a month plus the free calls to landlines. The speed degraded down to 9mb well before we had got to 2gb of data and if I remember rightly their fault reporting line closed for lunch and most of the weekend! Ozone promised 20mb download at the time.

4. Mobile signals are variable, lunchtime is often poor for us but in general its only low for a few minutes. Free mobile was useless where we are, we cancelled at the end of month 1. SFR is good, but Bouygues is better and gives us 4g most of the time. For the last 18 months we have had 1 basic voice sim on a monthly renewable subscription and then taken advantage of Bouygues discounts for more voice and data sim packages. Currently we are paying 22 euros a month for 4 sims I.e. 2 of 20gb data each plus 2 voice call sims to the 100+ countries. If we need to contact people abroad on their mobiles we use what's app and text them, they then answer when convenient to them. All calls in France except premium lines are included.☺
Since our sims are in our unlocked dual sim phones, we never miss a call ourselves and have access to the internet almost wherever we are. Our PCs and printers access our WiFi network by using the data sim settings to provide a hotspot. If necessary we can access iPlayer etc by using a paid for VPN. We are finally happy 😀😀

I would buy a house without a landline but I would test for mobile network availability before putting in an offer . I would pay for 1 days roaming on my UK sim. The charge is infinitesimal in comparison to all the other costs incurred in property purchase.
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Don't buy a house near us! On a good day we get 2G. We have no ADSL - there is a rumour that we might get a booster by the end of 2017. The Wimax service is awful and satellite internet is eyewateringly expensive. We have a hotline to ErDF for powercut updates. It is very likely that I won't be able to finish this messa
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