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Moved in about a month ago with my wife to Dubai, and am in the process of evaluating used cars for daily commute to work, as well as relatively frequent (read twice a month) road trips.. Nothing offroad though... My options are

1) 2011 Audi A4 2.0 with about 60,000 kms for 90,000
2) 2011 GMC Acadia with about 35,000 kms for 110,000
3) 2011 Infinity G37 with 10,000 kms for 120,000

Option 1 is from a private seller and comes with Audi warranty and service contract, while options 2 and 3 are from Alfuttaim used cars that also give a 1 year warranty. Any suggestions on what is a better buy based on reliability, price, cost of ownership, resale value? Also, any thoughts on whether or not these are reasonable prices, are also appreciated.

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I'm not an expert, but private car sales prices seem to be a bit erratic. When I was shopping around, there were huge variations in price (even taking year and mileage into consideration) The Japanese cars are super cheap here. You can get a brand new elantra for the same price as the audi. While I appreciate ones preference for Audi's, they are comparitively expensive here and parts may be as well.

The GMC - I have no opinion

On a note of totally personal bias: Infiniti drivers are a$$holes of monumental proportions ;-P


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In Dubai you can get any car you want, but my suggestions is to go for cars with high re sale such as Nissan Altima, Honda Accord, Toyota Camry... etc.

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A Hyundai Elantra is the McDonalds of cars, where Audi's are around the best non-supercars money can buy ... now, I like McDonalds, and I like Hyundai's, but Audi is in the BMW and Mercades classes. If you are a car enthusiest, and drive one, you'll understand.

I just moved here, and am now in the cheapest rental car available (feels like a go-kart with a roof) until I buy a car. My apartment search is taking top priority, but after I move in, the car buying process is next. I'm currently in the deciding mode of what I want. I've had good experience buying used from private sellers, then selling the car 3 years later at the same price I bought it for. Therefore, I may try that again. Here's some of the advice I've received so far:
- buy a big SUV as protection from the absurdly dangerous drivers here.
- buy a very common car because it holds resale values better (same as below advice).
- buy a Toyota because they're so common, every shop can work on them - hence you get to skip the high markups for dealer oil changes.

I've been considering a premium brand (Audi, BMW, etc), but not sure that I want to appear as the rich snobby guy at my work (where I am likely among the best paid of the lot). I also have had the itch to get a convertible, but I'm not sure if that's the wisest thing to do here. Thoughts?

To the reader: what kind of car did you buy, and why?

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A Hyundai Elantra is the McDonalds of cars, where Audi's are around the best non-supercars money can buy ... now, I like McDonalds, and I like Hyundai's, but Audi is in the BMW and Mercades classes. If you are a car enthusiest, and drive one, you'll understand.

I just moved here, and am now in the cheapest rental car available (feels like a go-kart with a roof) until I buy a car. My apartment search is taking top priority, but after I move in, the car buying process is next. I'm currently in the deciding mode of what I want. I've had good experience buying used from private sellers, then selling the car 3 years later at the same price I bought it for. Therefore, I may try that again. Here's some of the advice I've received so far:
- buy a big SUV as protection from the absurdly dangerous drivers here.
- buy a very common car because it holds resale values better (same as below advice).
- buy a Toyota because they're so common, every shop can work on them - hence you get to skip the high markups for dealer oil changes.

I've been considering a premium brand (Audi, BMW, etc), but not sure that I want to appear as the rich snobby guy at my work (where I am likely among the best paid of the lot). I also have had the itch to get a convertible, but I'm not sure if that's the wisest thing to do here. Thoughts?

To the reader: what kind of car did you buy, and why?
Well, I am sure you know your office but in general an Audi or BMW won't make you appear to be "the rich snobby guy" in Dubai. They are by and large middle range cars.

If you are a car enthusiast then get what you want to drive and don't worry so much about what other people think.

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....... and I like Hyundai's, but Audi is in the BMW and Mercades classes. If you are a car enthusiest, and drive one, you'll understand......

To the reader: what kind of car did you buy, and why?
I recently drove the Audi S8 and was a bit disappointed with the lack of luxury feel while driving whilst comparing to BMW 7 series, and the Mercedes S class. Why? The BMW and Mercedes outperforms the ride; very smooth and quite. The Audi is more bumpy on the road and has higher noise levels. BMW 7 series, 750i, sits on top of the stack due to the excellent ride and comfort, en very low noise levels. The refinement is unbelievable; unlike the Audi where you get feel lots of stuff happening in the steering and the seat. But for heavier build frames like myself, I found the Mercedes S has more space, easier step-in, and has superior seats... that is why I choose Mercedes.


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Well, I am sure you know your office but in general an Audi or BMW won't make you appear to be "the rich snobby guy" in Dubai. They are by and large middle range cars.

If you are a car enthusiast then get what you want to drive and don't worry so much about what other people think.
Ha! Good point, a BMW 3 series surely doesn't make you the rich snobby guy in Dubai. I saw a Ferrari earlier today with license plate 88 ... I hear the less numbers on the plate, the more exclusive it is, and people sell 1 digit plates at auction for millions of AED. I think half the people in my office don't have a car, and of the 20 cars or so that are there, only 2 of them are premium brands (Audi, BMW, Infinity, Mercedes, etc).

Also, I did not mean to classify myself as a car enthusiest. I'm in the middle ground, where as a mechanical engineer I appreciate cars as excellent and fun machines (as opposed to those who just consider it a mode of transportation), but I'm not one who has extensive knowledge or experience with premium or super cars.

I'm trying to keep my car budget in the 60 to 90k AED range. I have had good experience buying 1-4 year old used cars to save a lot of money, and I feel I'll do the same here. I prefer a 4 door sedan. I've been seeing a lot of A4's, BMW 3 series, etc. in the 2-4 year old range with under 70k miles. With that target budget, what would you go after?

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Ha! Good point, a BMW 3 series surely doesn't make you the rich snobby guy in Dubai. I saw a Ferrari earlier today with license plate 88 ... I hear the less numbers on the plate, the more exclusive it is, and people sell 1 digit plates at auction for millions of AED. I think half the people in my office don't have a car, and of the 20 cars or so that are there, only 2 of them are premium brands (Audi, BMW, Infinity, Mercedes, etc).

Also, I did not mean to classify myself as a car enthusiest. I'm in the middle ground, where as a mechanical engineer I appreciate cars as excellent and fun machines (as opposed to those who just consider it a mode of transportation), but I'm not one who has extensive knowledge or experience with premium or super cars.

I'm trying to keep my car budget in the 60 to 90k AED range. I have had good experience buying 1-4 year old used cars to save a lot of money, and I feel I'll do the same here. I prefer a 4 door sedan. I've been seeing a lot of A4's, BMW 3 series, etc. in the 2-4 year old range with under 70k miles. With that target budget, what would you go after?
I drive a Porsche that I brought over and they are so common here that I never get the kind of jealous comments that it attracted in some parts of the US. People love their cars here and don't feel societal pressure to drive a crappier car than they can afford just to avoid appearing prosperous. If anything, the pressure here is to drive a better car than you can afford.

Car prices here are roughly the same as in the US. I would think that AED 90,000 is a little low for a 1-2 year old 3 series or A4 series, but I'm not personally in the car market so I haven't looked into pricing much.

I personally prefer German cars for the way they are built and handle and I like your choices of smaller 4 door cars. I think I'd probably go for an M3 or S4 if you can afford them (or don't mind getting an older car). Otherwise 335 or A4. I tend to lean toward the larger engine sizes for all the same reasons that people do in the US. It's hard to beat the Audi for its interior and there would be little point in getting a quattro as it doesn't have the clearance to go dune bashing and there is no snow or ice. But I would try the BMW too for sure.

A regular non-AMG Mercedes is not so common here. If you can't spring for an AMG you are looking at a C class probably. Back in the US I test drove a C330 with the manual transmission and it was transformed by the ability to hold it in gear. The automatic Mercedes is designed for lazy cruising and shifts far too early. Unfortunately, automatic seems to be even rarer here than in the US and that car probably isn't one you could find.

This is obviously all very personal.

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Thanks for the tips. As soon as I finish the apartment search, the car search is the next thing on the list. If you have any other tips, let me know. Otherwise, I'm going to keep plugging and chugging on Dubizzle.

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Thanks for the tips. As soon as I finish the apartment search, the car search is the next thing on the list. If you have any other tips, let me know. Otherwise, I'm going to keep plugging and chugging on Dubizzle.

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Plugging and chugging on dubizzle is a good idea. I just bought a car via a private seller that advertised there, got to befriend a good person and get a great deal too

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Whether you are moving homes or vehicles, it is really a stressful task. And, I believe it is better if we left this work for professionals.

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