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I have got this offer with Emirates and would like to know your feedback, please.

My current situation is:
Employed in an international airline, live in a villa with family (wife and 3 kids 10, 5 and 2 years old)
I have a decent salary 22000 AED before taxes (14700 AED after 33% off).
30 days paid vacation per year
Discounted staff travel tickets
All other social securities (health care, insurance, school etc)

EK offers a grade 9 with the following package:
Salary 32000 AED full package incl.(housing allowance, electricity, internet and transport)
Personal Accident and Life Insurance
Medical Insurance - spouse and 3 children.
End of Service Benefits
Education Assistance: Primary - up to 40,000 AED. Per academic year per child, Secondary up to 60,000
Annual Leave - 42 calendar days
Settling-In Allowance : 50,000 AED one-off
Annual Flight Ticket - me and the family.
Staff Travel Benefits
Other discounts

We are looking for a 3 bed rooms villa in Al Furjan or any other expat community. We are considering the GEMS American academy as school for the kids.

We live a very average life style. No fancy stuff more than going out for a dinner once or twice a month. We do activities with the kids during the weekends such as going to the parks or the beaches.

What is your reflection about that? can we survive without struggling? I know we might not be able to save but that's not our primary goal at least the first year until my wife gets a job.

I also wonder if I can find a cost of living spreadsheet/Excel file somewhere that will help us get an idea about the cost of living.

I appreciate your valuable inputs.
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Dear friends,

I just get offer from ADCO from Abu Dhabi for Engineer position in oil and gas industry. I have 09 years experience in that position. The package including:
1. Basic: 28,000 AED/month with permanence contract
2. Housing allowance: 150,000 AED/year (this is not cash entitlement, the company provide good house)
3. Full medical for family and staff
4. Car LOAN: 150,000 AED in one time.
5. Furniture support: 35,000 AED in one time when I arrived
6. Full education support up for 4 childs (I remember 35,000 AED/year/child)

Actually, NET in hand will be 28,000 AED/month. I will spend for food, transportation,
entertainment.

Anyone can advice me, that package is enough for family with my wife and 1 little daughter?

How much I can save a month? (I would say for normal requirement)

Appreciated for your help on this matter.

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Hi Dzung,

It's really hard to find a VN compatriot in this forum

'normal requirement' is a fuzzy definition, it depends on your lifestyle. As I'm working and living in Dubai but I think life in Abu Dhabi is the same as in Dubai, I would say your offer is pretty good for a small famlily like yours.

1- You would find on dubizzle.com to have some information about house rental (price, area, etc.). I think you would need a 2-bedroom apartment.
2- Education is also a big budget consumer but 35k AED/year is pretty good financial support. I haven't digged into this subjet because my kid is small and doesn't go to school.
3- Normally, there must be 'tickets to return home for self and family per year' and 1-month temporary accomodation in your package?
4-150k AED loan for car is interesting offer from my point of view. You would need around 100k AED to have a good car here. I'm a big fan of Toyota Corolla, it costs around 60-70k and you can pay in multiple instalments (around 1k AED/month for 5 years)

Remember, you do not have income tax here so, salary is always net

From my point of view, you are free from your house rental, kid school fee, I think you could save upto 70% of your basic salary per month.

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Hi everyone,

I'm newbie here, I would like to ask your advise regarding the salary package that was offered to me to work in American Hospital Dubai.
I work as a Deputy Sister in ED of London and earn 2800/monthly net. excluding bank overtime.
I am planning to move to Dubai however the offer that was given to me as a Senior Staff Nurse (since did not make it to the Head Nurse post) as follows:
a. Basic Salary 12550 AED
b. Sign on Bonus of 1month basic salary payable upon completion of 6 months employment
c. Single contract - shared accommodation with another staff with 2 bedroom and 2 bathroom apartment. Utilities fully paid. Municipality taxes fully paid.
d. Hospital Transport provided to and from work.
e. Alternative to live out (of which I am intending to do since my husband is joining me). House Rent allowance = 45180 AED per annum. 600 AED transport allowance.
e. free yearly return ticket back home annual after 12months of employment
f. free medical insurance for myself (since this is a single contract) and free malpractice insurance
g. 30 days annual leave + 10 public holidays
h. 15 days sick leave fully paid
I. free mobilization flight to start for self from point of hire

Any advise will be appreciated. They need my reply ASAP.

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Hi,
I have got this offer with Emirates and would like to know your feedback, please.
Keep a few things in mind...

1. Jumping grades in EK is no easy task. I have been told that EK policy is to bring people at or below 25% of the grade range, and keep them there for atleast 5 years. You will likely be stuck in the grade you are hired in for a while, the way to jump grades is through promotions, and that is usually horizontal, to a different role that is attached to a higher grade. I know someone who has been stuck at grade 12 for the last 5 years. He has tried to apply for other positions but has been unsuccessful so far.

2. Any annual increments in salary are going to be tied to just the base, so even though you shared an all in number that includes housing, your annual increase will not be on the full 32k, but just the basic, and traditionally for people at and below grade 12, the annual increase has been hovering around 4%-5% of basic from what I have been told, that too if they have been evaluated very well.

3. HR may float an annual bonus fish hook, but again, keep in mind that (a) at your grade, the amount of the bonus will not be anything to write home about, and (b) there have been a few years in the past where EK has not paid any bonuses to staff below a certain grade because the annual results were below management's expectation

My opinion, sure EK travel and medical benefits are great, but with an all in package of 32k and three kids, sure you will survive and wont struggle, other people make do with a lot less; but you are going to have to make compromises to make ends meet... a place I would start would be look at an apartment instead of a villa for example...
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Which department are you going to work in?
How many hours do you currently work per week in UK and how many hours are you required to work in Dubai?
Reason that I ask - generally hours are much longer here with typically longer shifts.
You therefore need to work out your effective hourly rate.
My wife works at the American Hospital - so we know the ins and outs pretty well!!

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Which department are you going to work in?
How many hours do you currently work per week in UK and how many hours are you required to work in Dubai?
Reason that I ask - generally hours are much longer here with typically longer shifts.
You therefore need to work out your effective hourly rate.
My wife works at the American Hospital - so we know the ins and outs pretty well!!

Cheers
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Hi Steve! Thanks for the advise. I will be working in the Emergency Department with 48hour shift in a week (12hr).

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Hi Steve! Thanks for the advise. I will be working in the Emergency Department with 48hour shift in a week (12hr). I work 37.5hrs in a week in London.

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Hi Steve! Thanks for the advise. I will be working in the Emergency Department with 48hour shift in a week (12hr).

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Well, once you factor in the housing allowance and transport allowance - you will be getting around 3000 per month equivalent take home pay.
If your husband has a well paid job - then this will effectively be your designer goods spending money here!
There tend to be mainly Indian and Philipino nurses at American hospital with just some western nurses - i guess this is to do with pay rate differences.
Your salary here is similar to UK salary but would be much higher than salary in India or Phillipines.

Best of luck!

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And Steve, it will 17-18 shifts in a month

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Hi,

Yes that is the normal ED shift numbers and monthly hours at American Hospital.

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