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Mclovin oo7 and vantage, thanks for your feedback and suggestions. Yes, I agree I can't count on the variable pay. Car allowance is fixed no fuel on top. However, if I drive to client location then I can reimburse the mileage, toll etc. The housing package is the deal breaker for me and I don't see them increasing that value much if at all! I certainly don't want to live far away from main area and spend hours commuting to office etc. I live in a good house and apartment living is not for us. Decision, decision.....
You say the housing allowance is a deal breaker.....
I agree you should push for an increase here, if you can, but more importantly, look at the total package.

Imagine you were offered a straight forward salary, as you would be back home.
Would the TOTAL package suffice?

If you don't get an allowance, it doesn't mean you are homeless.

A 600k package, for example, with a housing allowance if 90k inclusive is actually BETTER than a 600k package with an inclusive allowance of 150k, due to EOT calculations.
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Husband has been offered a salary of 30,000 AED a month all in. He is an electrical design engineer with 8 years experience. We will be a one income household for at least two years before i go back to work teaching primary. We are married but no children but planning to start a family this year. I don't think this is enough to live on as Im not sure how much salaries increase here and at some point we will have to take in to consideration school/nursery fees. Is this the going rate for building services engineers or should we push for more? Company doesn't pay allowances just an all in package.

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Husband has been offered a salary of 30,000 AED a month all in. He is an electrical design engineer with 8 years experience. We will be a one income household for at least two years before i go back to work teaching primary. We are married but no children but planning to start a family this year. I don't think this is enough to live on as Im not sure how much salaries increase here and at some point we will have to take in to consideration school/nursery fees. Is this the going rate for building services engineers or should we push for more? Company doesn't pay allowances just an all in package.
What about health insurance? The two of you could live on a 30k salary but if you're planning to get pregnant you would need a comprehensive health insurance to cover for that. Is your husband's offer for a single person?

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It comes with medical insurance. Im just wondering if that is the going rate for engineers in building services or if he should be earning more? It would be tight on that budget for us and def no school fees to get out of that.

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Also whether he should negotiate a higher salary or is this normal salary. His current take home pay is about 36,000 pounds pre tax. So although the salary is an uplift we have a comfortable life here as I work as well and our outgoings are fairly low. For example we have a low mortgage, only need one car as we live in the city and bills and food are fairly low. It's the extra costs Im worried about. To rent something semi decent seems to be about 4 times our current mortgage.

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Husband has been offered a salary of 30,000 AED a month all in. He is an electrical design engineer with 8 years experience. We will be a one income household for at least two years before i go back to work teaching primary. We are married but no children but planning to start a family this year. I don't think this is enough to live on as Im not sure how much salaries increase here and at some point we will have to take in to consideration school/nursery fees. Is this the going rate for building services engineers or should we push for more? Company doesn't pay allowances just an all in package.
Hang on. You live in Scotland and don't think 5,000 a month in your pocket is enough?

Decline the offer. You can obviously make so much more in the UK.

Even worse.

You get only 36,000 a year before tax, so around 2,000 a month.

You're turning down 2.5 times that?

Stay away. Please stay away.


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Husband has been offered a salary of 30,000 AED a month all in. He is an electrical design engineer with 8 years experience. We will be a one income household for at least two years before i go back to work teaching primary. We are married but no children but planning to start a family this year. I don't think this is enough to live on as Im not sure how much salaries increase here and at some point we will have to take in to consideration school/nursery fees. Is this the going rate for building services engineers or should we push for more? Company doesn't pay allowances just an all in package.
This sounds about right for an electrical design engineer ( non management position)
With no children, you'll be fine, and could save aed100k per year.
Get yourself back into teaching, and that will add another 12-15k / month.

Kids are expensive, with schooling, but you've got plenty of time for promotion etc, if you put your minds to it.

You can save a lot, or blow the lot.
It's all about lifestyle.

You can save with this, and have holidays abroad etc, and enjoy life.

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Hang on. You live in Scotland and don't think 5,000 a month in your pocket is enough?

Decline the offer. You can obviously make so much more in the UK.

Even worse.

You get only 36,000 a year before tax, so around 2,000 a month.

You're turning down 2.5 times that?

Stay away. Please stay away.
Wow....just wow.

Thanks for the constructive advice for everyone else. No harm i guess in taking it back to the negotiating table. I think rent is my biggest worry as it seems to be increasing every year but I guess if it gets too much we can always come back. The only thing is he is non management but this job he will be managing a small team which is a step up for him. But maybe it will lead to a promotion as you say which will be great for his experience as well.

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Also whether he should negotiate a higher salary or is this normal salary. His current take home pay is about 36,000 pounds pre tax. So although the salary is an uplift we have a comfortable life here as I work as well and our outgoings are fairly low. For example we have a low mortgage, only need one car as we live in the city and bills and food are fairly low. It's the extra costs Im worried about. To rent something semi decent seems to be about 4 times our current mortgage.
As a non management position it's an excellent salary, potentially even a little high, so I'd be surprised if they upped the offer.

Perfectly adequate for decent life in Dubai, holidays and to make decent savings. If you're not pregnant yet you should maybe consider working here too, to maximise your savings if only here for a few years.
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Just been offered a job in IT here for 60k AED pm all in. No health insurance, no end of term bonus - I waive that. No paid holiday (though I get paid for public holidays).

I plan to save 40k of this per month

I'm a single guy, 46, two kids approaching school-leaving age who will stay with their mum (we're divorced) in the UK.

Is living on 20k AED pm doable in Dubai? I thought I could perhaps get a 1 bed in a more upmarket neighbourhood in a complex with gym and pool, plus lease a decent car (Audia A4 or equivalent).

But I'm open to ideas. I want to save as much as I can. Can I make do on public transport ? There's a metro near my office in Deira.

I've looked briefly at apartments, but really, I don't know where to start ? For me, this is all about saving as much as I can and not being seduced by the glitz and glamour.

Can I realistically save 40k AED per month? Everything seems so expensive here.

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