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Old 16th July 2013, 09:37 PM
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Congrats Silver! Great to know that you're sorted.

As for myself, I've had a rather hectic past couple days going back and forth to the rent committee in order to clear up some missing documents:

1. Original tenancy contract: For some reason, I don't have the original. I'm pretty sure when I first got the contract last year, the agent asked me if I wanted it or if he should hold on to it. Me being gullible, I told him he'll keep it safe better than me. (Never do that! Always keep your original contract. I learned the hard way). Anyhow, the rent committee chap was nice and looked over the title deed etc to verify that the contract copy I had was indeed the original. He told me to add a line in my Claim Form saying that I had proved this is the original contract.

2. Minor changes in claim form: Since my landlord's address was in Pakistan, he told me to change that to our agent's Dubai address and contact number instead. Also the translation service had slightly confused the last two sections (Details of Case, and Demands). Told me to write "Want to renew contract on same terms. Want landlord to reimburse me all relevant expenses in filing this claim", in the demands (last) section.

3. Letter from Bank: The fellow said that copy of my rent cheque + bank statement showing those funds had been deducted from my account are not enough. He said to get my bank to issue me a letter saying that the specific cheque (ref number) issued in person's name (landlord) was issued by the bank on the stated date. I don't know why the rent committee needs a letter instead of the bank statement, but I had to go do it. The bank was so confused and said it was not their policy, but a bit of persuasion and speaking to the manager finally sorted me out.

That's about it. I finally have all my required documents (fingers crossed). I'll be heading to the rent committee tomorrow, hopefully for the last time (excluding the hearing of course).

And SilverClover is definitely right about getting there earlier. On Sunday I reached them at around 11 AM due to a delay from the translation service, and I waited for over 2 hours at least! I actually had time to nip out and head a couple of metro stations away to get some work done and nip back in time for my call, haha. Yesterday I reached at 9 AM and was called in about 30 minutes. So tomorrow, I plan on heading there at 8:30, lol. Wish me luck!

If everything goes well, I'll give a small update tomorrow.

As Silver said, if any of you are being harassed by your landlord and could use some guidance on your rights as a tenant, it wouldn't hurt to head down and visit the rent committee, or at the least give RERA a call at their helpline (600555556).
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Thanks to all contributors in this thread. Very good info. Perhaps it can be a sticky, I suppose many people will find this helpful.

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This thread is what this forum is all about.

Excellent advice, and doesn't leave anything out!

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Here's my update, as promised:

Successfully registered the case with the committee today. I went in early at around 8:30 and was surprised to see several others had the same idea, ha. But still, I got token number 3, and got seen at approx 9:15. The case registration counters officially open at 9:00.

I was lucky enough to get the same fellow from my previous day. The gentleman at counter number 1 is extremely helpful and found again found a minor mistake in my claim form (I forgot to mention the agent's name), but he made the correction himself and made me sign the correction.

It took about 20-30 minutes for him to register everything on his computer and doublecheck that all the documents were there. He then sent me to the cashier's office to pay 3.5% of my rent + some misc charges (100 dirhams). I came back with the receipt and *shazam!* case registered. I got an SMS confirming the same.

My hearing is next week, July 24th at 9:45 AM. Here's hoping it goes as smoothly as SilverClover's.

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This is very good information to know. My landlord is gearing up to pull a rent increase again this year and I want to be ready for his nonsense cos I have no time or energy for house hunting and moving.

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Here's a quick update on my situation.

My hearing with the rent committee was today at 9:45AM. The agent showed up, but not the landlord (he's not in the country). We got seen at around 11.

Since the landlord didn't show up, and the agent does not have POA, the committee postponed the hearing for two months. It is now on September 18.

They also said that if we reach an agreement between ourselves, then I can cancel the case at my discretion (any time before the next hearing).

I have written to the landlord regarding the same. Have told him he will also have to minus the committee fees I paid to register the case (AED 1,160); basically 3.5% of the rent plus some minor additional charges the committee added.

So if he agrees, fine. If he doesn't, we wait till the next hearing. And I can stay in the apartment till then.

I'll update if anything happens before then.
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It was mixed - I was spoken to in English, the PoA was spoken to in Arabic; he requested that we speak English for my sake, but there was still a lot of Arabic spoken.

The PoA first said that my email from the agent first mentioning the request rent rise was invalid, because the agent wasn't authorised to negotiate on behalf of the landlady - except it was there in black and white, in two emails, saying that he'd spoken to the landlady and that was what she wanted.

The second point he tried to raise was that the contract I had signed says renewal of the contract is at the owner's discretion, and that the owner can give three months' notice before the end of the contract if she doesn't wish to renew. The answer to both of those points was in Arabic, but from the tone of voice and his reaction they were to tell him that those points were invalid.

Everything else he argued about was in Arabic; just from body language and tone of voice, two guys from the Rent Committee were saying that whatever he was asking/arguing for was wrong.

The PoA was definitely shocked when the decision was made in my favour!

Unrelated to the above, but linked to the proceeding: one thing that I found slightly confusing was the set-up of the thing. We were in what looked like a conference room, with a meeting happening at the conference table (and lots of shouting by the group of guys sat around it), while we were dealt with at a small desk beside the conference table. It was two different meetings happening at the same time, and while we had one dedicated guy sorting our thing out, a couple of guys from the main conference table kept sharing their opinion, too. Very strange!
Is the rule true ,that the rent of an apartment cannot be increased in the second year of the tenancy renewal ?

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Is the rule true ,that the rent of an apartment cannot be increased in the second year of the tenancy renewal ?
I don't think that rule applies any longer, but I'm not sure. You should call RERA (600555556) about that one.

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fantastic thread filled with lots of great and current info!

I've been in my place almost 2 months though with the run around the landlord gave me about signing an addendum (which he promised but then backtracked after everything had been paid and signed on my end), I'm not confident about the contract renewal next year!

But I guess there's no sense in worrying now The info in this thread will certainly be helpful if that problem does arise!

Hope all goes well for you fudzzz. And congrats on the win SilverClover. Cheers guys!

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Is the rule true ,that the rent of an apartment cannot be increased in the second year of the tenancy renewal ?
I called RERA last month and they informed me that this rule is not true. They also said that the the rent increase advised by their online Rent Increase calculator is binding. I think it will rarely be the case that the rent can be increased already after one year, because that can only be the case if your rent is more than 25% lower than the average of comparable apartments in the same area.

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